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This is obviously going to be subjective. I'd argue that people prone to using the currently popular buzz-word "toxic" when referring to opinions hold certain

This is obviously going to be subjective. I'd argue that people prone to using the currently popular buzz-word "toxic" when referring to opinions hold certain common political and social viewpoints and beliefs. In other words, this is implicitly a partisan (not objective) project that is mostly an attempt to enumerate wrongthink.

redisman 5y ago
Toxic now means “I don’t like this”. It used to mean some kind of antisocial behavior originally I believe
- jdavis703 5y ago
  And antisocial behavior is “I don’t like this.” There are some cultures where loud chewing and burping is considered respectful. I went to one such restaurant, felt personally disgusted because that’s the heigh of rudeness in my culture, and left the restaurant happy there’s a space where people can be comfortable with their native social norms. Where going through an era of social upheaval, so I think the definition of anti-social is bound to evolve.
  - munk-a 5y ago
    In different parts of the world I have experienced these two responses when getting in a Taxi: "Excuse me, please put your seat belt on or I'll have to ask you to get out" and "What about my driving offends you so much that you feel compelled to put on a seatbelt - I'll get you there safely." Social constructs around rudeness and norms are quite variable and if you're going to be hopping around you need to set your mind to adapt[1]. Rudeness is defined by the intent - and the fact that burping (an action that can be almost entirely non-voluntary) is judged as such an offensive act is really a shame in western culture. If you give me a carbonated beverage I'm going to burp - I don't know why my digestion can't handle carbonated beverages at all but it's simply unavoidable so, while in western cultures, I'm pretty much unable to enjoy seltzer. 1. If you can - I know some folks with misophonia that have serious difficulties. Also, one of my coworkers a while back had a traumatic experience involving gum chewing.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  And antisocial behavior is “I don’t like this.” There are some cultures where loud chewing and burping is considered respectful. I went to one such restaurant, felt personally disgusted because that’s the heigh of rudeness in my culture, and left the restaurant happy there’s a space where people can be comfortable with their native social norms. We’re going through an era of social upheaval, so I think the definition of anti-social is bound to evolve.
HPsquared 5y ago
It's in the same milieu as "problematic".
bena 5y ago
The data set contains both right wing and left wing vitriol. As well as non-politically motivated hatred.
- hereforphone 5y ago
  It's nice that the opinionated subjectivity is inclusive, at least
munk-a 5y ago
While I think the word toxic gets bandied around casually pretty often... having a read through their data set I think it's a pretty apt term for a lot of what I'm seeing. Most of these comments are utterly without value. Though maybe a more appropriate name would be "The Flamebait Dataset" because, while I'm sure not all of these were intended as flamebait they could all quite quickly encourage some highly adversarial responses.

redisman 5y ago

Toxic now means “I don’t like this”. It used to mean some kind of antisocial behavior originally I believe

jdavis703 5y ago
And antisocial behavior is “I don’t like this.” There are some cultures where loud chewing and burping is considered respectful. I went to one such restaurant, felt personally disgusted because that’s the heigh of rudeness in my culture, and left the restaurant happy there’s a space where people can be comfortable with their native social norms. Where going through an era of social upheaval, so I think the definition of anti-social is bound to evolve.
- munk-a 5y ago
  In different parts of the world I have experienced these two responses when getting in a Taxi: "Excuse me, please put your seat belt on or I'll have to ask you to get out" and "What about my driving offends you so much that you feel compelled to put on a seatbelt - I'll get you there safely." Social constructs around rudeness and norms are quite variable and if you're going to be hopping around you need to set your mind to adapt[1]. Rudeness is defined by the intent - and the fact that burping (an action that can be almost entirely non-voluntary) is judged as such an offensive act is really a shame in western culture. If you give me a carbonated beverage I'm going to burp - I don't know why my digestion can't handle carbonated beverages at all but it's simply unavoidable so, while in western cultures, I'm pretty much unable to enjoy seltzer. 1. If you can - I know some folks with misophonia that have serious difficulties. Also, one of my coworkers a while back had a traumatic experience involving gum chewing.
jdavis703 5y ago
And antisocial behavior is “I don’t like this.” There are some cultures where loud chewing and burping is considered respectful. I went to one such restaurant, felt personally disgusted because that’s the heigh of rudeness in my culture, and left the restaurant happy there’s a space where people can be comfortable with their native social norms. We’re going through an era of social upheaval, so I think the definition of anti-social is bound to evolve.

HPsquared 5y ago

It's in the same milieu as "problematic".

bena 5y ago

The data set contains both right wing and left wing vitriol. As well as non-politically motivated hatred.

hereforphone 5y ago
It's nice that the opinionated subjectivity is inclusive, at least

munk-a 5y ago

While I think the word toxic gets bandied around casually pretty often... having a read through their data set I think it's a pretty apt term for a lot of what I'm seeing. Most of these comments are utterly without value. Though maybe a more appropriate name would be "The Flamebait Dataset" because, while I'm sure not all of these were intended as flamebait they could all quite quickly encourage some highly adversarial responses.