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Was it a real prosecution in the Philando Castile case? Did the prosecution and judge really give an unbiased effort? Consider this. Philando was legally exe

by syki 5y ago

Was it a real prosecution in the Philando Castile case? Did the prosecution and judge really give an unbiased effort? Consider this. Philando was legally exercising his right to carry a gun and informed the officer of this. He was then killed with impunity. Is it really a right to carry guns if you can be killed for doing so by the state with no repercussions? What is truly astounding is silence of all the 2nd Amendment folks at this fact. I’m sure Philando’s race had nothing to do with their silence. Police rarely suffer consequences for their bad acts.

Manuel_D 5y ago
> Was it a real prosecution in the Philando Castile case? Did the prosecution and judge really give an unbiased effort? As far as I know, yes. If you have any evidence to the contrary please share it. Do you have any reason to think otherwise besides the fact that the verdict isn't what you desired? > He was then killed with impunity. With impunity? The officer was charged and prosecuted. That's literally the opposite of impunity. > I’m sure Philando’s race had nothing to do with their silence. Curious that you follow this line of reasoning when ~~you~~ the previous commenter supplied a counterexample of a white person being shot under near-identical circumstances.
- syki 5y ago
  I didn’t supply any examples. You have me confused with someone else. Daniel Shaver wasn’t armed and therefore is not an example of someone exercising their 2nd amendment right and being killed by police. You did not address the point made in the last paragraph. I live in Saint Paul and there were criticisms of the judges instructions to the jury. I have no idea of the validity of the criticisms but prosecutors have been known to go lightly against defendants they sympathize with. He was killed with impunity because the person who killed him was not punished. Well, not in any meaningful or commensurate way.
  - Manuel_D 5y ago
    > I didn’t supply any examples. You have me confused with someone else. Noted, and the previous comment has since been edited to reflect this correction. > Daniel Shaver wasn’t armed and therefore is not an example of someone exercising their 2nd amendment right and being killed by police. I think my point still stands, and is perhaps even stronger. How does the contrast between police killing an armed (legally armed, but armed nonetheless) black man and the police killing an unarmed white man demonstrate racial bias? > He was killed with impunity because the person who killed him was not punished. Well, not in any meaningful or commensurate way. The government attempted to punish the police officer. But we live in a country with checks and balances, and the jury did not convict. Again, what more do you want the government to do? Send in goons carry out extrajudicial punishment?
    - syki 5y ago
      I think you should reread my comment. I made no claims, references, or insinuations about racial bias amongst police. That Daniel Shaver was not armed is precisely why he is not relevant to my point. His race does not matter since he wasn’t armed. That 2nd amendment rights advocates did not clamor for justice for Philando is telling and I think motivated by racial considerations. It’s not a right if the police can kill you with impunity when exercising that so called right. Philando was killed with impunity. There is no disputing this fact. It’s irrelevant that he was prosecuted because the fact remains that police killed a man who did nothing wrong with virtually no consequences. By and large police know their misconduct goes unpunished and this is a very bad thing.

by syki 5y ago

Manuel_D 5y ago

> Was it a real prosecution in the Philando Castile case? Did the prosecution and judge really give an unbiased effort? As far as I know, yes. If you have any evidence to the contrary please share it. Do you have any reason to think otherwise besides the fact that the verdict isn't what you desired? > He was then killed with impunity. With impunity? The officer was charged and prosecuted. That's literally the opposite of impunity. > I’m sure Philando’s race had nothing to do with their silence. Curious that you follow this line of reasoning when ~~you~~ the previous commenter supplied a counterexample of a white person being shot under near-identical circumstances.

syki 5y ago
I didn’t supply any examples. You have me confused with someone else. Daniel Shaver wasn’t armed and therefore is not an example of someone exercising their 2nd amendment right and being killed by police. You did not address the point made in the last paragraph. I live in Saint Paul and there were criticisms of the judges instructions to the jury. I have no idea of the validity of the criticisms but prosecutors have been known to go lightly against defendants they sympathize with. He was killed with impunity because the person who killed him was not punished. Well, not in any meaningful or commensurate way.
- Manuel_D 5y ago
  > I didn’t supply any examples. You have me confused with someone else. Noted, and the previous comment has since been edited to reflect this correction. > Daniel Shaver wasn’t armed and therefore is not an example of someone exercising their 2nd amendment right and being killed by police. I think my point still stands, and is perhaps even stronger. How does the contrast between police killing an armed (legally armed, but armed nonetheless) black man and the police killing an unarmed white man demonstrate racial bias? > He was killed with impunity because the person who killed him was not punished. Well, not in any meaningful or commensurate way. The government attempted to punish the police officer. But we live in a country with checks and balances, and the jury did not convict. Again, what more do you want the government to do? Send in goons carry out extrajudicial punishment?
  - syki 5y ago
    I think you should reread my comment. I made no claims, references, or insinuations about racial bias amongst police. That Daniel Shaver was not armed is precisely why he is not relevant to my point. His race does not matter since he wasn’t armed. That 2nd amendment rights advocates did not clamor for justice for Philando is telling and I think motivated by racial considerations. It’s not a right if the police can kill you with impunity when exercising that so called right. Philando was killed with impunity. There is no disputing this fact. It’s irrelevant that he was prosecuted because the fact remains that police killed a man who did nothing wrong with virtually no consequences. By and large police know their misconduct goes unpunished and this is a very bad thing.