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> shite Yesterday is only good when you hear it in hindsight, knowing the commercial success that it had and under the influence of halo effect Honestly every

by GDC7 5y ago

> shite Yesterday is only good when you hear it in hindsight, knowing the commercial success that it had and under the influence of halo effect Honestly every song of that Level is. You have to put together a good album and it can make it to 100k copies sold . Everything above 100K copies is more telling about the luck and the scope of the promotional campaign supporting it then it says about the album itself . It’s a phenomenon you see in every field . Gisele Bunchen is beautiful but not 400M dollar beautiful Bill Gates is smart but not 170B smart The Mona Lisa is a great painting I guess but not 1B dollar worth Jesus was a pretty cool role model , but not a 3B devote follower type role model dictating that the world stops on his birthday All the above phenomenons rely on a mix of luck, vitality and as well as people not thinking about potentially buying into something that could be overrated and ‘overpriced’ compared to cheaper options which is the definition of halo effect

tomcam 5y ago
Jesus dictated the world should stop on his birthday?
- GDC7 5y ago
  Well if he really existed as an historical figure (we highly suspect he did) then for sure he would not be displeased if he knew that the world came to a halt on his birthday and that he has 3B followers and not like Instagram followers who have an attention span of 1 minute, just the number 3 billion doesn’t really paint the whole picture . It’s the amount of waking hours that the totality of humanity spend thinking about him. Nobody even comes close . No king , no absolute dictator , no celebrity (modern or past). It’s power law on steroids Many of the 3B dedicate at least an hour a day thinking about him and the values he tried to communicate , and in a very deep way He was somewhat of a crossover between a magician , a cult leader an artist and a businessman self promoter so nobody can convince me that he would not the type to gloat about his success. And honestly I can accept that . I’d rather have promotion about love and compassion than the technoutipian futurism such as crypto Jesus or rocket Jesus . But as I said I have to point out that luck plays a huge role . So many people tried to sing the virtue of compassion and love via story telling but only Jesus broke out and became a figure with 3 billion religious followers
  - tomcam 5y ago
    That was a very long non-answer
    - GDC7 5y ago
      Short answer : He didn’t dictate it, but he’d be pleased about it. He was a human being after all, if you want to cut him some slack you can compare him with a contemporary Buddhist monk. They too have an ego
      - burntoutfire 5y ago
        Too bad it's not his actual birthday, but rather an arbitrarily chosen day in year by the Roman Church to coincide with an already-existing holiday (winter solstice). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
      - tomcam 5y ago
        > but he’d be pleased about it. How do you know? Citation needed
mooooses 5y ago
He rose from the dead https://youtu.be/CIVvpFojbzk https://youtu.be/CIVvpFojbzk
- op00to 5y ago
  Is there proof of that?
  - mooooses 5y ago
    Depends on the proof you’re looking for. There are convincing arguments but it depends on what will satisfy you. How could I prove JFK was assassinated? Well there are mountains of proof, including video evidence. But what of that existed in 33 ad? Well we do have some evidence but it’s not as numerous as history produced today. Looking at the time period though, there is some pretty good evidence of what happened, but at the end of the day it is a conviction that only you can come to. Through my own research and experience I am convinced that he did, and through what I believe he has done in my life. But I realize that is not sufficient for some. Not even God himself was able to convince some of his divinity. I recommend the youtube video I linked, it’s a homily by a bishop about the historicity of Jesus. Not too lengthy.
dougmwne 5y ago
You must have stepped on some toes there by bringing in religion, but it’s a solid point overall. A lot of artistic greatness comes down to familiarity, marketing, money and luck. It’s possible that experts can determine the difference between one of the best songs ever and other merely great songs, though I suspect it’s largely a matter of opinion and also some measure of self consumed bullshit like with wine snobs or audiophiles. There’s a big difference between bad, competent, and great. I’m not so sure about the various shadings of great, at least objectively. Subjectively I have my own personal favorites that speak deeply to me and that I highly value.
thecolorblew 5y ago
Jesus was/is Lord, a Liar, or a Lunatic... cannot be "pretty cool role model" or "great teacher" without conceding he's God
- mooooses 5y ago
  Have you heard the fourth L? Legend? A compelling argument and one i looked into at one point. Im devout now, but it stopped me for a time.
  - GDC7 5y ago
    Bingo. Also The most famous celebrity ever Nobody even comes close
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  Or stuff was attributed to him long after his death that he didn’t really say. Which seems... obvious?

by GDC7 5y ago

tomcam 5y ago

Jesus dictated the world should stop on his birthday?

GDC7 5y ago
Well if he really existed as an historical figure (we highly suspect he did) then for sure he would not be displeased if he knew that the world came to a halt on his birthday and that he has 3B followers and not like Instagram followers who have an attention span of 1 minute, just the number 3 billion doesn’t really paint the whole picture . It’s the amount of waking hours that the totality of humanity spend thinking about him. Nobody even comes close . No king , no absolute dictator , no celebrity (modern or past). It’s power law on steroids Many of the 3B dedicate at least an hour a day thinking about him and the values he tried to communicate , and in a very deep way He was somewhat of a crossover between a magician , a cult leader an artist and a businessman self promoter so nobody can convince me that he would not the type to gloat about his success. And honestly I can accept that . I’d rather have promotion about love and compassion than the technoutipian futurism such as crypto Jesus or rocket Jesus . But as I said I have to point out that luck plays a huge role . So many people tried to sing the virtue of compassion and love via story telling but only Jesus broke out and became a figure with 3 billion religious followers
- tomcam 5y ago
  That was a very long non-answer
  - GDC7 5y ago
    Short answer : He didn’t dictate it, but he’d be pleased about it. He was a human being after all, if you want to cut him some slack you can compare him with a contemporary Buddhist monk. They too have an ego
    - burntoutfire 5y ago
      Too bad it's not his actual birthday, but rather an arbitrarily chosen day in year by the Roman Church to coincide with an already-existing holiday (winter solstice). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
    - tomcam 5y ago
      > but he’d be pleased about it. How do you know? Citation needed

mooooses 5y ago

He rose from the dead https://youtu.be/CIVvpFojbzk https://youtu.be/CIVvpFojbzk

op00to 5y ago
Is there proof of that?
- mooooses 5y ago
  Depends on the proof you’re looking for. There are convincing arguments but it depends on what will satisfy you. How could I prove JFK was assassinated? Well there are mountains of proof, including video evidence. But what of that existed in 33 ad? Well we do have some evidence but it’s not as numerous as history produced today. Looking at the time period though, there is some pretty good evidence of what happened, but at the end of the day it is a conviction that only you can come to. Through my own research and experience I am convinced that he did, and through what I believe he has done in my life. But I realize that is not sufficient for some. Not even God himself was able to convince some of his divinity. I recommend the youtube video I linked, it’s a homily by a bishop about the historicity of Jesus. Not too lengthy.

dougmwne 5y ago

You must have stepped on some toes there by bringing in religion, but it’s a solid point overall. A lot of artistic greatness comes down to familiarity, marketing, money and luck. It’s possible that experts can determine the difference between one of the best songs ever and other merely great songs, though I suspect it’s largely a matter of opinion and also some measure of self consumed bullshit like with wine snobs or audiophiles. There’s a big difference between bad, competent, and great. I’m not so sure about the various shadings of great, at least objectively. Subjectively I have my own personal favorites that speak deeply to me and that I highly value.

thecolorblew 5y ago

Jesus was/is Lord, a Liar, or a Lunatic... cannot be "pretty cool role model" or "great teacher" without conceding he's God

mooooses 5y ago
Have you heard the fourth L? Legend? A compelling argument and one i looked into at one point. Im devout now, but it stopped me for a time.
- GDC7 5y ago
  Bingo. Also The most famous celebrity ever Nobody even comes close
amanaplanacanal 5y ago
Or stuff was attributed to him long after his death that he didn’t really say. Which seems... obvious?