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> Am I supposed to believe that all these media cover current politics objectively LOL I don't need this article to tell me that, it's so blatantly obvious.

bediger4000 5y ago
Yeah, me too, really. The media have a fairly conservative bias, despite all the Republican claims of "liberal bias". I thought this conservative bias came from media trying to keep Republicans from claiming "liberal bias", but now I'm wondering if the CIA has something to do with it.
- colpabar 5y ago
  > The media have a fairly conservative bias Can you explain what you mean by this, with some examples?
  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    Assuming you consider the antiwar stance "liberal," the clearest example of this I've seen is a study of the media stories leading up to the Iraq War. 71% of US sources were pro-war, 26% "neutral," and 3% antiwar. When "both sides" were presented, it was pro-war vs pro preparing more for the war. https://fair.org/extra/amplifying-officials-squelching-dissent/ https://fair.org/extra/amplifying-officials-squelching-disse...
    - elzbardico 5y ago
      So Biden and Hillary Clinton are Republicans? Because both of them were pretty enthusiastic about WMDs in Iraq
      - boomboomsubban 5y ago
        They're neo-conservatives, nobody was discussing political parties.
        colpabar 5y ago
        Yes they were, the word "republicans" appears twice in the comment to which I replied.
        boomboomsubban 5y ago
        My mistake. Nobody was discussing the media having a bias towards any political party, they were discussing the media having a conservative bias despite Republican's claim of a liberal bias. Like when the antiwar position gets 3% of the media coverage.
        bobthechef 5y ago
        Who are not conservative. It's just a misleading label. It has liberal roots. The Trotskyite past of its founders and prominent figures is interesting to note as well (e.g. Irving Kristol).
- specialist 5y ago
  Corporate media has an establishment bias. On balance, NY Times leans neither conservative nor progressive. But they are wholly committed defenders of the status quo. And if the status quo is Liberal, Neoliberal, War on Terror, or whatever, then so is NY Times. Most other medias fall within the Overton Window (boundaries for acceptible discourse) as defined by NY Times. Including explicitly partisan outlets like GOP.tv, OANN, breitbart, etc. -- Social media, on the other hand, has a troll bias. And given the quirks of human psyche, a bias towards fear and outrage, social media is best exploited by right wing actors. Not that left wing actors don't try. It's just not as effective, so left wing story lines have terrible traction.

bediger4000 5y ago

Yeah, me too, really. The media have a fairly conservative bias, despite all the Republican claims of "liberal bias". I thought this conservative bias came from media trying to keep Republicans from claiming "liberal bias", but now I'm wondering if the CIA has something to do with it.

colpabar 5y ago
> The media have a fairly conservative bias Can you explain what you mean by this, with some examples?
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  Assuming you consider the antiwar stance "liberal," the clearest example of this I've seen is a study of the media stories leading up to the Iraq War. 71% of US sources were pro-war, 26% "neutral," and 3% antiwar. When "both sides" were presented, it was pro-war vs pro preparing more for the war. https://fair.org/extra/amplifying-officials-squelching-dissent/ https://fair.org/extra/amplifying-officials-squelching-disse...
  - elzbardico 5y ago
    So Biden and Hillary Clinton are Republicans? Because both of them were pretty enthusiastic about WMDs in Iraq
    - boomboomsubban 5y ago
      They're neo-conservatives, nobody was discussing political parties.
      - colpabar 5y ago
        Yes they were, the word "republicans" appears twice in the comment to which I replied.
        boomboomsubban 5y ago
        My mistake. Nobody was discussing the media having a bias towards any political party, they were discussing the media having a conservative bias despite Republican's claim of a liberal bias. Like when the antiwar position gets 3% of the media coverage.
      - bobthechef 5y ago
        Who are not conservative. It's just a misleading label. It has liberal roots. The Trotskyite past of its founders and prominent figures is interesting to note as well (e.g. Irving Kristol).
specialist 5y ago
Corporate media has an establishment bias. On balance, NY Times leans neither conservative nor progressive. But they are wholly committed defenders of the status quo. And if the status quo is Liberal, Neoliberal, War on Terror, or whatever, then so is NY Times. Most other medias fall within the Overton Window (boundaries for acceptible discourse) as defined by NY Times. Including explicitly partisan outlets like GOP.tv, OANN, breitbart, etc. -- Social media, on the other hand, has a troll bias. And given the quirks of human psyche, a bias towards fear and outrage, social media is best exploited by right wing actors. Not that left wing actors don't try. It's just not as effective, so left wing story lines have terrible traction.