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It’s why many people suggest mandatory gun ownership and the abolition of police. Then judges can issue warrants for arrest. This is how it worked pre-organize

It’s why many people suggest mandatory gun ownership and the abolition of police. Then judges can issue warrants for arrest. This is how it worked pre-organized state run policing in most of the western world.

wayoutthere 5y ago
There was definitely a self-policing movement in the 70s and 80s; the state-run police didn’t like it very much. Mumia Abu-Jamal is still in prison for trying to protect a community member from an abusive police officer.
- the-dude 5y ago
  > for trying to protect a community member Wikipedia claims he is in jail for shooting a police officer in the back and face. He died too.
  - wayoutthere 5y ago
    Yes, and the officer was assaulting Mumia’s brother with deadly force (cop had his gun out too and shot Mumia). Whether you believe Mumia is guilty comes down to your views on the role of police and their responsibility to the communities they serve, which is why he’s often referred to as a political prisoner. Who polices the police? Frank Miller didn’t come up with that out of thin air, there was a very real national conversation about community policing in the late 70s which the state police cracked down on through violence, then the Reagan years of law and order killed the conversation for anyone who didn’t want to end up in prison or dead.
    - the-dude 5y ago
      Wikipedia only states Faulkner and Cook ( Mumia's brother ) became engaged in a physical confrontation. Do you have any sources for your claim?
      - wayoutthere 5y ago
        Do you really believe a black man in the early 80s would instigate a fist-fight with a cop? There was a documentary a while back too that makes this case. [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal:_A_Case_For_Reasonable_Doubt%3F https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal:_A_Case_For_...
        the-dude 5y ago
        So I assume you have no sources? Where did you get the with deadly force? From what I have read, the brother was not shot.
JamesBarney 5y ago
I think you're stretching the use of the term many people.
- ska 5y ago
  and "worked"
tdeck 5y ago
How would you enforce "mandatory gun ownership"?
- prepend 5y ago
  Not that I think it’s a good idea, but it seems pretty simple. Just enforce it like the mandatory insurance requirement. Add a field to tax returns and fine people who don’t have a gun. Again, mandatory gun ownership is stupid. But it’s relatively easy to enforce at scale.

wayoutthere 5y ago

There was definitely a self-policing movement in the 70s and 80s; the state-run police didn’t like it very much. Mumia Abu-Jamal is still in prison for trying to protect a community member from an abusive police officer.

the-dude 5y ago
> for trying to protect a community member Wikipedia claims he is in jail for shooting a police officer in the back and face. He died too.
- wayoutthere 5y ago
  Yes, and the officer was assaulting Mumia’s brother with deadly force (cop had his gun out too and shot Mumia). Whether you believe Mumia is guilty comes down to your views on the role of police and their responsibility to the communities they serve, which is why he’s often referred to as a political prisoner. Who polices the police? Frank Miller didn’t come up with that out of thin air, there was a very real national conversation about community policing in the late 70s which the state police cracked down on through violence, then the Reagan years of law and order killed the conversation for anyone who didn’t want to end up in prison or dead.
  - the-dude 5y ago
    Wikipedia only states Faulkner and Cook ( Mumia's brother ) became engaged in a physical confrontation. Do you have any sources for your claim?
    - wayoutthere 5y ago
      Do you really believe a black man in the early 80s would instigate a fist-fight with a cop? There was a documentary a while back too that makes this case. [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal:_A_Case_For_Reasonable_Doubt%3F https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal:_A_Case_For_...
      - the-dude 5y ago
        So I assume you have no sources? Where did you get the with deadly force? From what I have read, the brother was not shot.

JamesBarney 5y ago

I think you're stretching the use of the term many people.

ska 5y ago
and "worked"

tdeck 5y ago

How would you enforce "mandatory gun ownership"?

prepend 5y ago
Not that I think it’s a good idea, but it seems pretty simple. Just enforce it like the mandatory insurance requirement. Add a field to tax returns and fine people who don’t have a gun. Again, mandatory gun ownership is stupid. But it’s relatively easy to enforce at scale.