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Flynn was entrapped and his family threatened: https://youtu.be/svYdF4UvJf0?list=PLSwm32hsWAtRdktdmBtZCy406tBLdwqoZ&t=703 https://youtu.be/svYdF4UvJf0?list=PLSw

Flynn was entrapped and his family threatened: https://youtu.be/svYdF4UvJf0?list=PLSwm32hsWAtRdktdmBtZCy406tBLdwqoZ&t=703 https://youtu.be/svYdF4UvJf0?list=PLSwm32hsWAtRdktdmBtZCy406...

unclebucknasty 5y ago
Was he also entrapped into running around the country taking QAnon oaths? Was he entrapped into calling for a Myanmar-style coup in the U.S.? Was he entrapped into plotting the kidnapping of a Turkish dissident in contravention of official U.S. policy? Was he entrapped into failing to register his work on behalf of a foreign government? Was he entrapped into neglecting to disclose contacts with Russian officials? Was he entrapped into meeting with Putin and accepting tens of thousands of dollars from Russian state media? Stuff just keeps happening to poor Mike and, to top it all off, the mean ol' FBI went out of their way to entrap him for no good reason (it was on YouTube, so it must be true).
- selimthegrim 5y ago
  I guess he got entrapped into calling for one religion too.
- pwned1 5y ago
  One only needs to read his indictment to see that they didn't point to any specific false statements by him.
- TeeMassive 5y ago
  Most of the things you said were either things he didn't got indicted for or not even crimes to begin with. I get it that you do not like Flynn, that's fine, but the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ is something that should worry anyone that cares about rule of law and not wanting to live under a despotic regime. The actions of the judge are also very problematic in itself. Fighting a motion to dismiss using ex parte material? Common. He was arrested due to an informal FBI meeting, without any lawyer, based on very technical questions that he tried to answer (because the meeting appeared to be work related) the best he could without the documents the FBI was referring to. When it comes to the Flynn case, the evil really is in the details. Click-bait titles and angry tweets are not good source of information when it comes to complicated judicial sagas.
  - unclebucknasty 5y ago
    >Most of the things you said were either things he didn't got indicted for or not even crimes to begin with. I can't tell if you're kidding with that "defense". It's bordering on satire. He's consistently displayed an astonishing lack of judgment, including directly by video and live on-stage. He's been consistently among compromised associates and in compromising positions, including admitted interactions with hostile regimes that he actively attempted to conceal. He was fired by a previous administration for his temperament and reckless behavior, then fired again. And, he's also confessed. Tell me: on what planet would any nation's competent intelligence services NOT be investigating him? Yet, you and the parent commenter want us to believe he's a perfectly reasonable guy patriot who's being unfairly targeted by "politicized" intelligence agencies. The parent then offers as "proof" a ranting YouTube video. It's absurd. >I get it that you do not like Flynn Has nothing to do with how I feel about Flynn. Everything to do with his behavior. >the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ is something that should worry anyone... Yeah, your grand political conspiracy is the actual unproven thing here. Yet, anytime someone on that team is caught red-handed, it's a "deep state" conspiracy. It's even the deep state's fault when Flynn lies. Under that framing our intelligence agencies should just be disbanded. >...that cares about rule of law and not wanting to live under a despotic regime Is that a joke? He's the former NSA and he specifically aligned himself with despotic regimes (Turkey, Russia), as well plotted in contravention of U.S. policy. He's called for a coup on American soil and he's implicated himself in a cult. So, what team are you on? Doesn't sound like Team America. >When it comes to the Flynn case, the evil really is in the details. Exactly.
    - TeeMassive 5y ago
      > He's consistently displayed an astonishing lack of judgment, including directly by video and live on-stage. Not a crime. Not even what he was indicted for. > He's been consistently among compromised associates and in compromising positions, including admitted interactions with hostile regimes that he actively attempted to conceal. Same here. Not a crime. > Tell me: on what planet would any nation's competent intelligence services NOT be investigating him? They did investigate him and the investigation was ordered to be closed because there was nothing. > Yet, you and the parent commenter want us to believe he's a perfectly reasonable guy patriot who's being unfairly targeted by "politicized" intelligence agencies. The parent then offers as "proof" a ranting YouTube video. The burden of proof is not on me. What in the video is wrong? The "ranting" video actually reads the actual indictments and court filings and backs what I claim. You provided no facts except your own opinions. > Yeah, your grand political conspiracy is the actual unproven thing here. Yet, anytime someone on that team is caught red-handed, it's a "deep state" conspiracy. You're making a straw man argument. I never talked about any conspiracies. Abuse of power happens. > It's even the deep state's fault when Flynn lies. Lying implies an intent to deceive, which was never proven. > Under that framing our intelligence agencies should just be disbanded. Another straw man, I didn't say that. > Is that a joke? He's the former NSA and he specifically aligned himself with despotic regimes (Turkey, Russia), as well plotted in contravention of U.S. policy. He's called for a coup on American soil and he's implicated himself in a cult. You are projecting your opinion of Flynn over mine, as if I was in "Flynn's camp" and if Flynn is wrong therefore I'm wrong. "Aligning with despotic regimes" is an opinion and also not a crime. And if that's your basis for a "former NSA" than you might want to reconsider given three letters agencies track record with "despotic regimes". > So, what team are you on? Doesn't sound like Team America. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

Flynn was entrapped and his family threatened: https://youtu.be/svYdF4UvJf0?list=PLSwm32hsWAtRdktdmBtZCy406tBLdwqoZ&t=703 https://youtu.be/svYdF4UvJf0?list=PLSwm32hsWAtRdktdmBtZCy406...

unclebucknasty 5y ago

Was he also entrapped into running around the country taking QAnon oaths? Was he entrapped into calling for a Myanmar-style coup in the U.S.? Was he entrapped into plotting the kidnapping of a Turkish dissident in contravention of official U.S. policy? Was he entrapped into failing to register his work on behalf of a foreign government? Was he entrapped into neglecting to disclose contacts with Russian officials? Was he entrapped into meeting with Putin and accepting tens of thousands of dollars from Russian state media? Stuff just keeps happening to poor Mike and, to top it all off, the mean ol' FBI went out of their way to entrap him for no good reason (it was on YouTube, so it must be true).

selimthegrim 5y ago
I guess he got entrapped into calling for one religion too.
pwned1 5y ago
One only needs to read his indictment to see that they didn't point to any specific false statements by him.
TeeMassive 5y ago
Most of the things you said were either things he didn't got indicted for or not even crimes to begin with. I get it that you do not like Flynn, that's fine, but the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ is something that should worry anyone that cares about rule of law and not wanting to live under a despotic regime. The actions of the judge are also very problematic in itself. Fighting a motion to dismiss using ex parte material? Common. He was arrested due to an informal FBI meeting, without any lawyer, based on very technical questions that he tried to answer (because the meeting appeared to be work related) the best he could without the documents the FBI was referring to. When it comes to the Flynn case, the evil really is in the details. Click-bait titles and angry tweets are not good source of information when it comes to complicated judicial sagas.
- unclebucknasty 5y ago
  >Most of the things you said were either things he didn't got indicted for or not even crimes to begin with. I can't tell if you're kidding with that "defense". It's bordering on satire. He's consistently displayed an astonishing lack of judgment, including directly by video and live on-stage. He's been consistently among compromised associates and in compromising positions, including admitted interactions with hostile regimes that he actively attempted to conceal. He was fired by a previous administration for his temperament and reckless behavior, then fired again. And, he's also confessed. Tell me: on what planet would any nation's competent intelligence services NOT be investigating him? Yet, you and the parent commenter want us to believe he's a perfectly reasonable guy patriot who's being unfairly targeted by "politicized" intelligence agencies. The parent then offers as "proof" a ranting YouTube video. It's absurd. >I get it that you do not like Flynn Has nothing to do with how I feel about Flynn. Everything to do with his behavior. >the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ is something that should worry anyone... Yeah, your grand political conspiracy is the actual unproven thing here. Yet, anytime someone on that team is caught red-handed, it's a "deep state" conspiracy. It's even the deep state's fault when Flynn lies. Under that framing our intelligence agencies should just be disbanded. >...that cares about rule of law and not wanting to live under a despotic regime Is that a joke? He's the former NSA and he specifically aligned himself with despotic regimes (Turkey, Russia), as well plotted in contravention of U.S. policy. He's called for a coup on American soil and he's implicated himself in a cult. So, what team are you on? Doesn't sound like Team America. >When it comes to the Flynn case, the evil really is in the details. Exactly.
  - TeeMassive 5y ago
    > He's consistently displayed an astonishing lack of judgment, including directly by video and live on-stage. Not a crime. Not even what he was indicted for. > He's been consistently among compromised associates and in compromising positions, including admitted interactions with hostile regimes that he actively attempted to conceal. Same here. Not a crime. > Tell me: on what planet would any nation's competent intelligence services NOT be investigating him? They did investigate him and the investigation was ordered to be closed because there was nothing. > Yet, you and the parent commenter want us to believe he's a perfectly reasonable guy patriot who's being unfairly targeted by "politicized" intelligence agencies. The parent then offers as "proof" a ranting YouTube video. The burden of proof is not on me. What in the video is wrong? The "ranting" video actually reads the actual indictments and court filings and backs what I claim. You provided no facts except your own opinions. > Yeah, your grand political conspiracy is the actual unproven thing here. Yet, anytime someone on that team is caught red-handed, it's a "deep state" conspiracy. You're making a straw man argument. I never talked about any conspiracies. Abuse of power happens. > It's even the deep state's fault when Flynn lies. Lying implies an intent to deceive, which was never proven. > Under that framing our intelligence agencies should just be disbanded. Another straw man, I didn't say that. > Is that a joke? He's the former NSA and he specifically aligned himself with despotic regimes (Turkey, Russia), as well plotted in contravention of U.S. policy. He's called for a coup on American soil and he's implicated himself in a cult. You are projecting your opinion of Flynn over mine, as if I was in "Flynn's camp" and if Flynn is wrong therefore I'm wrong. "Aligning with despotic regimes" is an opinion and also not a crime. And if that's your basis for a "former NSA" than you might want to reconsider given three letters agencies track record with "despotic regimes". > So, what team are you on? Doesn't sound like Team America. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque