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“In real terms” $39,490 today is $39,490 today.

Retric 5y ago
Only today, that isn’t a statement they will still sell you a Model 3 for that nominal price in 4 or 40 years. Rather it’s a statement they will sell you for that price right now. He said they would sell at 35k and they did, briefly.
- throwaway413 5y ago
  Sure, I agree with that, but you said: > So not only where they selling at 35k for a while, in real terms they still are. And I’m just saying no, because if they want to say they are still selling a $35k car, it needs to be priced $35k today. Sure, they started with a $35k car, but it is no longer the case. I haven’t suddenly increased my car budget from $35k to $40k in the last 4 years, regardless of inflation, because inflation != income growth. I still want a $35k car, and the fact they said for so long they would have one, and then upped the price, is annoying because I would spend $35k on a car but not $40k, regardless today or 2017.
  - Retric 5y ago
    if they want to say They aren’t advertising a 35k car today, but this feels like beating a dead horse so I will drop it. inflation != income growth. That’s a fair point, but it really means you have taken a pay cut over the last few years. Without inflation that same pay cut would have meant you couldn’t afford a 35k car, so blame whoever you’re working for not Tesla. Though if it’s something other than a shitty employer then I apologize for the tone. My personal finances have also taken a hit.
    - throwaway413 5y ago
      Oh you’re totally correct here, that is definitely a pay cut against inflation - fortunately not the case for me, just expressing this opinion, thanks for your kindness there. I am indeed beating the dead horse here, but I guess what I’m trying to say is, I really wish there was an even cheaper model, because $35k/$40k seems to be right at that point of pushing the budget of a budget car into luxury territory, and not truly giving consumers what they want, a base model. Sorry if I’m not being clear, a bit hard to explain. But that’s not Tesla’s problem, just an issue of the economics of the industry at this point. Hoping we see that significant drop in cost as battery tech evolves.

Only today, that isn’t a statement they will still sell you a Model 3 for that nominal price in 4 or 40 years. Rather it’s a statement they will sell you for that price right now. He said they would sell at 35k and they did, briefly.

throwaway413 5y ago
Sure, I agree with that, but you said: > So not only where they selling at 35k for a while, in real terms they still are. And I’m just saying no, because if they want to say they are still selling a $35k car, it needs to be priced $35k today. Sure, they started with a $35k car, but it is no longer the case. I haven’t suddenly increased my car budget from $35k to $40k in the last 4 years, regardless of inflation, because inflation != income growth. I still want a $35k car, and the fact they said for so long they would have one, and then upped the price, is annoying because I would spend $35k on a car but not $40k, regardless today or 2017.
- Retric 5y ago
  if they want to say They aren’t advertising a 35k car today, but this feels like beating a dead horse so I will drop it. inflation != income growth. That’s a fair point, but it really means you have taken a pay cut over the last few years. Without inflation that same pay cut would have meant you couldn’t afford a 35k car, so blame whoever you’re working for not Tesla. Though if it’s something other than a shitty employer then I apologize for the tone. My personal finances have also taken a hit.
  - throwaway413 5y ago
    Oh you’re totally correct here, that is definitely a pay cut against inflation - fortunately not the case for me, just expressing this opinion, thanks for your kindness there. I am indeed beating the dead horse here, but I guess what I’m trying to say is, I really wish there was an even cheaper model, because $35k/$40k seems to be right at that point of pushing the budget of a budget car into luxury territory, and not truly giving consumers what they want, a base model. Sorry if I’m not being clear, a bit hard to explain. But that’s not Tesla’s problem, just an issue of the economics of the industry at this point. Hoping we see that significant drop in cost as battery tech evolves.