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Something I've noticed more and more following the gaming industry the last decade. Developers openly loathing it's end users. And if they're brave enough to sp

Something I've noticed more and more following the gaming industry the last decade. Developers openly loathing it's end users. And if they're brave enough to speak about it publicly, who knows what they're saying behind closed doors.

rstupek 5y ago
Have you seen the entitlement some end users display towards developers? The vitriol hurled at them through twitter, etc?
- ianbutler 5y ago
  Not that I think any of that is excusable but a lot of studios have been churning out garbage and expecting players to swallow it and say thanks. Look at the infinite multiplayer debacle right now, probably the worst f2p monetization I've seen since the f2p model started taking hold like 20 years ago. So many games release as barely working beta states right now and I think players should be angry. How they take it out isn't right and often who it's directed at is wrong but a lot of the times AAA and the like Game Studios are just putting out bad products and anger I think is a valid feeling to have when as a player, you see that.
  - joe-collins 5y ago
    Despite your guarded opening, I think your stance is overly equivocal. There isn't a strong "both sides" argument when one side engages in death threats and doxxing while the other merely produces subpar products. Would you consider your opinions reasonable if consumers targeted the same vitriol at the manufacturer of a faulty appliance?
    - ianbutler 5y ago
      I think telling someone they made a shitty product when they did is warranted regardless of industry, especially if you're paying or being manipulated into paying money. I don't think extreme behaviors are okay, which I said - but you're right it was maybe a bit ambiguous, so to note to be extra clear, death threats are a form of extreme behavior.
    - jevoten 5y ago
      > one side engages in death threats and doxxing Perhaps if your favored groups were equivocated with their worst members, you'd see the error in this line of thinking. You'd probably call it racist, bigoted, stereotyping, prejudiced...
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rstupek 5y ago

Have you seen the entitlement some end users display towards developers? The vitriol hurled at them through twitter, etc?

ianbutler 5y ago
Not that I think any of that is excusable but a lot of studios have been churning out garbage and expecting players to swallow it and say thanks. Look at the infinite multiplayer debacle right now, probably the worst f2p monetization I've seen since the f2p model started taking hold like 20 years ago. So many games release as barely working beta states right now and I think players should be angry. How they take it out isn't right and often who it's directed at is wrong but a lot of the times AAA and the like Game Studios are just putting out bad products and anger I think is a valid feeling to have when as a player, you see that.
- joe-collins 5y ago
  Despite your guarded opening, I think your stance is overly equivocal. There isn't a strong "both sides" argument when one side engages in death threats and doxxing while the other merely produces subpar products. Would you consider your opinions reasonable if consumers targeted the same vitriol at the manufacturer of a faulty appliance?
  - ianbutler 5y ago
    I think telling someone they made a shitty product when they did is warranted regardless of industry, especially if you're paying or being manipulated into paying money. I don't think extreme behaviors are okay, which I said - but you're right it was maybe a bit ambiguous, so to note to be extra clear, death threats are a form of extreme behavior.
  - jevoten 5y ago
    > one side engages in death threats and doxxing Perhaps if your favored groups were equivocated with their worst members, you'd see the error in this line of thinking. You'd probably call it racist, bigoted, stereotyping, prejudiced...
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