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Google has popularized the practice of keeping hordes of UI designers on payroll and changing the UI every single release. It's fucking cancerous. Nothing can e

Google has popularized the practice of keeping hordes of UI designers on payroll and changing the UI every single release. It's fucking cancerous. Nothing can ever just stay the same and work. Users have to be in a constant state of headache to relearn shit for the nth time. Software didn't have to be this way...

sixothree 5y ago
You're not wrong, but the intention is to keep users confused. It makes users feel lost and powerless. Then to find something they have to "discover" it; which I'm pretty sure involves endorphins.
wackro 5y ago
I don't know. This morning I had to watch a YouTube video to find out how to turn on an induction cook top.
- phatfish 5y ago
  Hopefully the process wont change in 6 months when a new UI "update" is released. At least i hope not, I wouldn't be surprised to find a cooker controlled by a phone style touch screen running Android.
- tokamak-teapot 5y ago
  I used a couple of induction hobs and couldn’t get used to them because the interfaces just didn’t work with my brain. Press a ‘button’ - maybe it will work. Move a pan slightly - now you’ve pressed a ‘button’ with and something has happened but you will have to figure out what. Spill some water? Now another change has happened. Maybe the whole thing has switched off and you’re wondering why everything seems to be ruined. I tried to buy one with physical knobs but was told that the manufacturers who make them are moving to the touch controls. So I’m going back to gas.
  - jmnicolas 5y ago
    I have a cheap one. The slightest hint of grease on it or on my hands and it doesn't detect my touch. Sometimes it needs several pass from different dry clothes to activate. I'm mad at the thing just writing this!
  - occoder 5y ago
    > Spill some water? Now another change has happened. That's exactly what happened to me while staying in a serviced apartment. It's hilarious, ridiculous, and sad all at the same time. As a software developer I died a little inside that day. Fortunately I haven't had to put up with that crap once I checked out of there.
  - goda90 5y ago
    We decided to upgrade from a terrible old coil range to induction. Since our wiring is old, it was just barely the minimum amperage for a lot of the brands, but the one brand we liked with knobs needed more power. So we're paying an electrician to come upgrade our wires, because touch controls are that terrible.
  - alpaca128 5y ago
    > Move a pan slightly - now you’ve pressed a ‘button’ With mine moving the pan on the wrong plate will trigger a lock button, in other words it locks the whole interface. So even if you want to switch the whole thing off you first have to press a button that's now as hot as your pan. There's no escaping horrible user interfaces.
quaintdev 5y ago
Planned obsolescence. Ford did exact same thing with their cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE
high_5 5y ago
Software industry has become fashion industry.
Cosmin_C 5y ago
Funnily enough I was reading the other day how some BMWs will come without a touchscreen due to the silicon/chip crisis and I actually thought that was a plus. Seriously, whomever thought it was a good idea to make cars use touch controls and going through 5 menus to turn the heat down should be just shipped to Antarctica to explain their thought process to the penguins.
- MisterTea 5y ago
  I saw a car commercial where the driver appears to divert their attention from the road, lean over the center console towards the passenger seat to swipe across a large, wide touch screen while operating the vehicle. Meanwhile 10-12 years ago my cousin was ticketed for distracted driving in the midwest because the trucking company he worked for bolted a laptop to the dashboard of his semi tractor. Though somehow these mostly useless screens are okay to have? I dont get it.
  - kuschku 5y ago
    There was actually a court case in Germany, where it was ruled that enabling/disabling certain functionality, on some Tesla Models (I think it included even changing some wiper settings?) was illegal while driving, as you’re not allowed to operate devices that require looking at them (e.g. touchscreens) while driving.
- jasonladuke0311 5y ago
  This is like the biggest thing pushing me away from getting a Rivian. I have no desire to screw around with a touchscreen while driving.
notyourday 5y ago
> Google has popularized the practice of keeping hordes of UI designers on payroll and changing the UI every single release. But but but how else would you get the gigantic digital clock take TWO lines of a lock screen?! Someone needed to design it!
- temp_praneshp 5y ago
  Have you figured out how to change this? Per articles like https://nerdschalk.com/android-12-how-to-change-lock-screen-clock/ https://nerdschalk.com/android-12-how-to-change-lock-screen-... there's no straightforward way. I hate the new color palettes as well, I wish I hadn't upgraded
  - notyourday 5y ago
    I have not been able to. I don't want notifications on my lock screen, i just want time. Small time. Like before. I'm on a Pixel6. It is kind of an upgrade to my previous 4 year old phone and I sort of like it but no, it does not have a better battery and it barely has any better performance, but other Android phones are ad-ingested junk ( looking at you, f!cking Samsung ) or a joke of a software ( Looking at you, OnePlus), plus they arent whitelisted on major US carriers in Feb 2022, so Pixel it was. The new UI is total junk compared to the UI of 11. To make it somewhat better I replaced the launcher with ActionLauncher 3, disabled gestures and disabled Google Assistant. What I want to know is if "Now Playing" can be made into a widget/app-tap, because no, I do not want it always listening.

sixothree 5y ago

You're not wrong, but the intention is to keep users confused. It makes users feel lost and powerless. Then to find something they have to "discover" it; which I'm pretty sure involves endorphins.

wackro 5y ago

I don't know. This morning I had to watch a YouTube video to find out how to turn on an induction cook top.

phatfish 5y ago
Hopefully the process wont change in 6 months when a new UI "update" is released. At least i hope not, I wouldn't be surprised to find a cooker controlled by a phone style touch screen running Android.
tokamak-teapot 5y ago
I used a couple of induction hobs and couldn’t get used to them because the interfaces just didn’t work with my brain. Press a ‘button’ - maybe it will work. Move a pan slightly - now you’ve pressed a ‘button’ with and something has happened but you will have to figure out what. Spill some water? Now another change has happened. Maybe the whole thing has switched off and you’re wondering why everything seems to be ruined. I tried to buy one with physical knobs but was told that the manufacturers who make them are moving to the touch controls. So I’m going back to gas.
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  I have a cheap one. The slightest hint of grease on it or on my hands and it doesn't detect my touch. Sometimes it needs several pass from different dry clothes to activate. I'm mad at the thing just writing this!
- occoder 5y ago
  > Spill some water? Now another change has happened. That's exactly what happened to me while staying in a serviced apartment. It's hilarious, ridiculous, and sad all at the same time. As a software developer I died a little inside that day. Fortunately I haven't had to put up with that crap once I checked out of there.
- goda90 5y ago
  We decided to upgrade from a terrible old coil range to induction. Since our wiring is old, it was just barely the minimum amperage for a lot of the brands, but the one brand we liked with knobs needed more power. So we're paying an electrician to come upgrade our wires, because touch controls are that terrible.
- alpaca128 5y ago
  > Move a pan slightly - now you’ve pressed a ‘button’ With mine moving the pan on the wrong plate will trigger a lock button, in other words it locks the whole interface. So even if you want to switch the whole thing off you first have to press a button that's now as hot as your pan. There's no escaping horrible user interfaces.

quaintdev 5y ago

Planned obsolescence. Ford did exact same thing with their cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE

high_5 5y ago

Software industry has become fashion industry.

Cosmin_C 5y ago

Funnily enough I was reading the other day how some BMWs will come without a touchscreen due to the silicon/chip crisis and I actually thought that was a plus. Seriously, whomever thought it was a good idea to make cars use touch controls and going through 5 menus to turn the heat down should be just shipped to Antarctica to explain their thought process to the penguins.

MisterTea 5y ago
I saw a car commercial where the driver appears to divert their attention from the road, lean over the center console towards the passenger seat to swipe across a large, wide touch screen while operating the vehicle. Meanwhile 10-12 years ago my cousin was ticketed for distracted driving in the midwest because the trucking company he worked for bolted a laptop to the dashboard of his semi tractor. Though somehow these mostly useless screens are okay to have? I dont get it.
- kuschku 5y ago
  There was actually a court case in Germany, where it was ruled that enabling/disabling certain functionality, on some Tesla Models (I think it included even changing some wiper settings?) was illegal while driving, as you’re not allowed to operate devices that require looking at them (e.g. touchscreens) while driving.
jasonladuke0311 5y ago
This is like the biggest thing pushing me away from getting a Rivian. I have no desire to screw around with a touchscreen while driving.

notyourday 5y ago

> Google has popularized the practice of keeping hordes of UI designers on payroll and changing the UI every single release. But but but how else would you get the gigantic digital clock take TWO lines of a lock screen?! Someone needed to design it!

temp_praneshp 5y ago
Have you figured out how to change this? Per articles like https://nerdschalk.com/android-12-how-to-change-lock-screen-clock/ https://nerdschalk.com/android-12-how-to-change-lock-screen-... there's no straightforward way. I hate the new color palettes as well, I wish I hadn't upgraded
- notyourday 5y ago
  I have not been able to. I don't want notifications on my lock screen, i just want time. Small time. Like before. I'm on a Pixel6. It is kind of an upgrade to my previous 4 year old phone and I sort of like it but no, it does not have a better battery and it barely has any better performance, but other Android phones are ad-ingested junk ( looking at you, f!cking Samsung ) or a joke of a software ( Looking at you, OnePlus), plus they arent whitelisted on major US carriers in Feb 2022, so Pixel it was. The new UI is total junk compared to the UI of 11. To make it somewhat better I replaced the launcher with ActionLauncher 3, disabled gestures and disabled Google Assistant. What I want to know is if "Now Playing" can be made into a widget/app-tap, because no, I do not want it always listening.