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Its annoying that alt+left-arrow is broken on that site. Instead of taking the browser back, it just selects some random part of the page.

chrismorgan 5y ago
With notion.site, they basically went out of their way to break everything for viewers: they give you what I presume is their editor (which clobbers a lot of the browser’s normal functionality, though whether it does a good job of it or not I can’t tell, never having used it), but with most of the editing functionality clumsily disabled. The end result is a bit better than it was a year and a half ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23925461 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23925461; the links and contenteditable parts have been mostly fixed), but still extremely bad, and still painfully keyboard-inaccessible (Up/Down do their own wonky thing that does let you navigate, but roughly by paragraph, and PageUp/PageDown/Space/Shift+Space/Home/End do nothing; but I just discovered that if you click on the page title text, then Up/Down start to do nothing and PageUp/PageDown/Space/Shift+Space/Home/End work).
tmalsburg2 5y ago
Page up and page down also don't work on that page. Funny for a blog post that's about improving UI.
- trungdq88 5y ago
  The website is actually a Notion page, I can't do much, sorry!
black_puppydog 5y ago
Yeah notion's habit of overriding essential browser shortcuts is bad enough on desktop but the site is basically useless on mobile. The two Screenshots are placed next to each other instead of having the headline between them, and one of them doesn't even render. I have to use notion at work and if I didn't love my job for other reasons their UI might be enough to make me walk out the door. Plus: my goodness for a few words and two images this page takes forever to load and render, even with a warm cache. Cutting-edge UX in 2021! hooray!

chrismorgan 5y ago

With notion.site, they basically went out of their way to break everything for viewers: they give you what I presume is their editor (which clobbers a lot of the browser’s normal functionality, though whether it does a good job of it or not I can’t tell, never having used it), but with most of the editing functionality clumsily disabled. The end result is a bit better than it was a year and a half ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23925461 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23925461; the links and contenteditable parts have been mostly fixed), but still extremely bad, and still painfully keyboard-inaccessible (Up/Down do their own wonky thing that does let you navigate, but roughly by paragraph, and PageUp/PageDown/Space/Shift+Space/Home/End do nothing; but I just discovered that if you click on the page title text, then Up/Down start to do nothing and PageUp/PageDown/Space/Shift+Space/Home/End work).

tmalsburg2 5y ago

Page up and page down also don't work on that page. Funny for a blog post that's about improving UI.

trungdq88 5y ago
The website is actually a Notion page, I can't do much, sorry!

black_puppydog 5y ago

Yeah notion's habit of overriding essential browser shortcuts is bad enough on desktop but the site is basically useless on mobile. The two Screenshots are placed next to each other instead of having the headline between them, and one of them doesn't even render. I have to use notion at work and if I didn't love my job for other reasons their UI might be enough to make me walk out the door. Plus: my goodness for a few words and two images this page takes forever to load and render, even with a warm cache. Cutting-edge UX in 2021! hooray!