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Oh, wow. I didn't know brass instruments were so... logical! Another idea, keeping the same "home row" layout as before: Left hand is valves, right hand is "mo

Oh, wow. I didn't know brass instruments were so... logical! Another idea, keeping the same "home row" layout as before: Left hand is valves, right hand is "mouth." You can only press one "mouth key" at a time, and that sounds the note. (Brass instruments don't... can't... have any kind of polyphony, right?) I thought about adding expression by using mouse movements -- wiggle the mouse for vibrato, or use the absolute position of the mouse for volume or something. Kind of only works if you have a trackpad, though.

yesenadam 5y ago
> Brass instruments don't... can't... have any kind of polyphony, right? Well...If you sing another note you can get 2 or 3 notes at the same time e.g. James Morrison on trombone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEXCBYuInnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEXCBYuInnQ p.s. Coltrane playing 2 notes at once on saxophone, several times, in this Round Midnight solo from 1960. I've never heard him doing it apart from this solo, no idea why not, sounds awesome! https://youtu.be/eXJ31iveJbw?t=233 https://youtu.be/eXJ31iveJbw?t=233 Roland Kirk is just cheating here, playing 3 saxophones at once. /s https://youtu.be/ZIqLJmlQQNM?t=101 https://youtu.be/ZIqLJmlQQNM?t=101 (Bonus: 10 assorted Roland Kirk videos https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/10-roland-kirk-live-performances/ https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/10-roland-kirk-live-perform... ) I used to be able to whistle 2 notes at once and sing a 3rd, but haven't tried in years as it sounds so silly hehe. I had an idea for getting a choir all doing that...
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Thanks for your comments in this thread (ex sax player here). You probably are already aware of this but on the off chance that you are not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas
  - yesenadam 5y ago
    Thank you! I think I watched that video years ago (Anna-Maria Hefele's overtone singing) but forgot all about it, thanks for reminding me, I checked out more of her music just now. She's pretty amazing huh!
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      Mindblowing, really. There is that famous Fifth Element song, which is faked to some degree, if I had to name one example of alien music this one would definitely set the standard. It sounds otherworldly.
yesenadam 5y ago
Yes! I love y-position of mouse for volume, further away is louder, and wiggle sideways for vibrato. Maybe mouse x-change since current note started can be added to pitch, then player could simulate vibrato and lip pitch-bending, max mouse movement left and right should be about a semitone (maybe 2) up or down. Sounding good :-) edit: >I didn't know brass instruments were so... logical! Not so logical is that trumpet players call a Bb a C. When they read a C in their music, they play a "C".. but it's a Bb. (Eb instruments like alto sax call Eb "C"! French horns call F "C", etc. Crazy.) I have perfect pitch so no way I will or could call a Bb a C. So reading trumpet music I'd have to transpose everything down a tone - see a C, play a Bb. Kind of irritating. I started on trombone as a kid, played in a marching band where some of the charts (usually in bass clef) called a Bb a Bb, other charts (usually treble clef + transpose down an octave) called a Bb a C! and some was in tenor or even alto clef. Tenor clef uh.. you pretend it's treble clef, transpose down an octave and play a written C as Bb. Alto clef you pretend it's bass clef, transpose up an octave and play a C as Bb. Luckily the other trombonists explained all this to me! So after that, merely transposing treble clef down a tone for trumpet was relatively no problem hehe. Pretty crazy mess though.
- enriquto 5y ago
  > Not so logical is that trumpet players call a Bb a C. But this has nothing to do with the instrument itself, it's just a stupid quirk in the notation. I hate the concept of "transposing instrument", as if it was a property of the instrument. People who play these instruments by ear will never find any difference with "non-transposing" instruments.

yesenadam 5y ago

> Brass instruments don't... can't... have any kind of polyphony, right? Well...If you sing another note you can get 2 or 3 notes at the same time e.g. James Morrison on trombone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEXCBYuInnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEXCBYuInnQ p.s. Coltrane playing 2 notes at once on saxophone, several times, in this Round Midnight solo from 1960. I've never heard him doing it apart from this solo, no idea why not, sounds awesome! https://youtu.be/eXJ31iveJbw?t=233 https://youtu.be/eXJ31iveJbw?t=233 Roland Kirk is just cheating here, playing 3 saxophones at once. /s https://youtu.be/ZIqLJmlQQNM?t=101 https://youtu.be/ZIqLJmlQQNM?t=101 (Bonus: 10 assorted Roland Kirk videos https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/10-roland-kirk-live-performances/ https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/10-roland-kirk-live-perform... ) I used to be able to whistle 2 notes at once and sing a 3rd, but haven't tried in years as it sounds so silly hehe. I had an idea for getting a choir all doing that...

jacquesm 5y ago
Thanks for your comments in this thread (ex sax player here). You probably are already aware of this but on the off chance that you are not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas
- yesenadam 5y ago
  Thank you! I think I watched that video years ago (Anna-Maria Hefele's overtone singing) but forgot all about it, thanks for reminding me, I checked out more of her music just now. She's pretty amazing huh!
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Mindblowing, really. There is that famous Fifth Element song, which is faked to some degree, if I had to name one example of alien music this one would definitely set the standard. It sounds otherworldly.

yesenadam 5y ago

Yes! I love y-position of mouse for volume, further away is louder, and wiggle sideways for vibrato. Maybe mouse x-change since current note started can be added to pitch, then player could simulate vibrato and lip pitch-bending, max mouse movement left and right should be about a semitone (maybe 2) up or down. Sounding good :-) edit: >I didn't know brass instruments were so... logical! Not so logical is that trumpet players call a Bb a C. When they read a C in their music, they play a "C".. but it's a Bb. (Eb instruments like alto sax call Eb "C"! French horns call F "C", etc. Crazy.) I have perfect pitch so no way I will or could call a Bb a C. So reading trumpet music I'd have to transpose everything down a tone - see a C, play a Bb. Kind of irritating. I started on trombone as a kid, played in a marching band where some of the charts (usually in bass clef) called a Bb a Bb, other charts (usually treble clef + transpose down an octave) called a Bb a C! and some was in tenor or even alto clef. Tenor clef uh.. you pretend it's treble clef, transpose down an octave and play a written C as Bb. Alto clef you pretend it's bass clef, transpose up an octave and play a C as Bb. Luckily the other trombonists explained all this to me! So after that, merely transposing treble clef down a tone for trumpet was relatively no problem hehe. Pretty crazy mess though.

enriquto 5y ago
> Not so logical is that trumpet players call a Bb a C. But this has nothing to do with the instrument itself, it's just a stupid quirk in the notation. I hate the concept of "transposing instrument", as if it was a property of the instrument. People who play these instruments by ear will never find any difference with "non-transposing" instruments.