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Eehhhhhhhh, maybe true 2-3 years ago, but things are getting more decentralized as time goes on. There are many competitors to Infura and MetaMask coming into t

Eehhhhhhhh, maybe true 2-3 years ago, but things are getting more decentralized as time goes on. There are many competitors to Infura and MetaMask coming into the space now! There are even hardware companies creating nodes that work right off the shelf (I only know if a handful of devs in the space that have one though, as they're still a bit pricey).

littlestymaar 5y ago
> maybe true 2-3 years ago, but things are getting more decentralized as time goes on That's a good indication that it is not decentralized ;).
michaelsbradley 5y ago
And there are active efforts to develop ultra-light clients for Ethereum together with the concept of “portal network”: https://our.status.im/nimbus-fluffly/ https://our.status.im/nimbus-fluffly/
PragmaticPulp 5y ago
Can you name any of these alternative companies? I’d like to at least look into them. One of the weirdest trends I’ve seen in Web3 discussions is the insistence that better alternatives exist, but for some reason nobody is using them, talking about them, or even naming them in discussions.
- sebmellen 5y ago
  https://ava.do https://ava.do is one. Cool founders based in the Swiss “Crypto Valley”.
- davidmurdoch 5y ago
  I work at ConsenSys so I am definitely not claiming the alternatives are better. https://moralis.io/ https://moralis.io/ and https://www.alchemy.com/ https://www.alchemy.com/ are Infura alternatives You can Google "metamask alternatives" if you want, there are lots. I won't vouch for any of them.
- lhl 5y ago
  For Metamask alternatives, Rabby https://rabby.io/ https://rabby.io/ (MIT-licensed) (it routes all queries through its own RPCs atm) and Frame https://frame.sh/ https://frame.sh/ (GPLv3) are the best desktop alternatives I've tried. The latter is my preferred client and IMO is a strict upgrade from Metamask. It's also getting a $7/$1 match on Gitcoin Grants GR12 right now if anyone wants to contribute in the next week: https://gitcoin.co/grants/1143/frame https://gitcoin.co/grants/1143/frame There are many, many WalletConnect https://walletconnect.com/ https://walletconnect.com/ compatible wallets that can be used with most dapps as well. There are close to 100 of these: https://walletconnect.com/registry/wallets https://walletconnect.com/registry/wallets As for RPCs, here's a list for you: https://github.com/arddluma/awesome-list-rpc-nodes-providers https://github.com/arddluma/awesome-list-rpc-nodes-providers If you want to run you're own RPC node, it's not so hard as there are docker and docker-compose images that will let you get geth (or nethermind, or erigon) that will let you spin up an RPC pretty trivially. The more important thing for decentralization IMO, is that you can reasonably switch, even if most people don't. Think about how this plays out in the browser or email markets and compare it to how much of a difference that is to completely locked in services like Facebook.
  - diveanon 5y ago
    Would like to second Rabby, been trialing it for about a month now and I love it.
  - NetOpWibby 5y ago
    Wow, Rabby looks great! Had no idea Metamask had competitors, this is awesome.

littlestymaar 5y ago

> maybe true 2-3 years ago, but things are getting more decentralized as time goes on That's a good indication that it is not decentralized ;).

michaelsbradley 5y ago

And there are active efforts to develop ultra-light clients for Ethereum together with the concept of “portal network”: https://our.status.im/nimbus-fluffly/ https://our.status.im/nimbus-fluffly/

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

Can you name any of these alternative companies? I’d like to at least look into them. One of the weirdest trends I’ve seen in Web3 discussions is the insistence that better alternatives exist, but for some reason nobody is using them, talking about them, or even naming them in discussions.

sebmellen 5y ago
https://ava.do https://ava.do is one. Cool founders based in the Swiss “Crypto Valley”.
davidmurdoch 5y ago
I work at ConsenSys so I am definitely not claiming the alternatives are better. https://moralis.io/ https://moralis.io/ and https://www.alchemy.com/ https://www.alchemy.com/ are Infura alternatives You can Google "metamask alternatives" if you want, there are lots. I won't vouch for any of them.
lhl 5y ago
For Metamask alternatives, Rabby https://rabby.io/ https://rabby.io/ (MIT-licensed) (it routes all queries through its own RPCs atm) and Frame https://frame.sh/ https://frame.sh/ (GPLv3) are the best desktop alternatives I've tried. The latter is my preferred client and IMO is a strict upgrade from Metamask. It's also getting a $7/$1 match on Gitcoin Grants GR12 right now if anyone wants to contribute in the next week: https://gitcoin.co/grants/1143/frame https://gitcoin.co/grants/1143/frame There are many, many WalletConnect https://walletconnect.com/ https://walletconnect.com/ compatible wallets that can be used with most dapps as well. There are close to 100 of these: https://walletconnect.com/registry/wallets https://walletconnect.com/registry/wallets As for RPCs, here's a list for you: https://github.com/arddluma/awesome-list-rpc-nodes-providers https://github.com/arddluma/awesome-list-rpc-nodes-providers If you want to run you're own RPC node, it's not so hard as there are docker and docker-compose images that will let you get geth (or nethermind, or erigon) that will let you spin up an RPC pretty trivially. The more important thing for decentralization IMO, is that you can reasonably switch, even if most people don't. Think about how this plays out in the browser or email markets and compare it to how much of a difference that is to completely locked in services like Facebook.
- diveanon 5y ago
  Would like to second Rabby, been trialing it for about a month now and I love it.
- NetOpWibby 5y ago
  Wow, Rabby looks great! Had no idea Metamask had competitors, this is awesome.