> Usually what happens in that case is a schism Pretty sure the "we were wrong" half of the schism is admitting failure. This feels like a "no true scotsman" f

> Usually what happens in that case is a schism Pretty sure the "we were wrong" half of the schism is admitting failure. This feels like a "no true scotsman" fallacy. There are certainly going to be people who never change their minds, but there are many, many examples of groups changing their policies to the reverse of what they were (slavery, gay marriage, outlawing inter-racial marriage, etc). Obviously plenty of people disagree with those changes, but OP's view is that the "real" group is only the people who never changed their minds.