4 ms·

You mean the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory [0]. That one's is bogus. Trump even got in trouble for trying to get Zelensky to publicly announce an investigatio

by esarbe 5y ago

You mean the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory [0]. That one's is bogus. Trump even got in trouble for trying to get Zelensky to publicly announce an investigation. > The story, broke by the NY Post, was factually correct, I wouldn't consider the NY Post to be a reliable news source[1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden-Ukraine_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden-Ukraine_conspiracy_theor... [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/

caeril 5y ago
You may be missing my point, here. From the Wikipedia article posted: "Fellow press outlets The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal stated that they could not verify the data provided by the New York Post independently" and "PolitiFact wrote in June 2021: "Over time, there has been less doubt that the laptop did in fact belong to Hunter Biden"" Contrast this with three years of mainstream media laundering absurd, and equally unsubstantiated stories of collusion predicated on the Steele Dossier. My point has precisely zero to do with the validity of either story, but to do with the obvious full-court press by your side to smear the opposition and deny dissemination of reporting predicated on equally (in)valid source materials to point out that one side is not uniquely corrupt in the attempt to undermine democracy. Everybody lies. And the OP's attempt to paint one side as some manner of angelic bastion of virtuousness is patently insane, disingenuous. and absurd. Human nature is what it is, and everyone involved here is evil. There are no angels. There are no good guys, but one side definitely has control of the microphone.
- esarbe 5y ago
  Thanks for the clarification! I might not agree with your conclusion but I appreciate the effort to explain the point your making.
- Nursie 5y ago
  > And the OP's attempt to paint one side as some manner of angelic bastion of virtuousness is patently insane, disingenuous. and absurd Your attempt to paint my comments that way is more absurd, as I did no such thing. > everyone involved here is evil Maybe so, but one side literally just tried to overturn an election they lost to hang on to power. They're playing a different game.

by esarbe 5y ago

caeril 5y ago

You may be missing my point, here. From the Wikipedia article posted: "Fellow press outlets The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal stated that they could not verify the data provided by the New York Post independently" and "PolitiFact wrote in June 2021: "Over time, there has been less doubt that the laptop did in fact belong to Hunter Biden"" Contrast this with three years of mainstream media laundering absurd, and equally unsubstantiated stories of collusion predicated on the Steele Dossier. My point has precisely zero to do with the validity of either story, but to do with the obvious full-court press by your side to smear the opposition and deny dissemination of reporting predicated on equally (in)valid source materials to point out that one side is not uniquely corrupt in the attempt to undermine democracy. Everybody lies. And the OP's attempt to paint one side as some manner of angelic bastion of virtuousness is patently insane, disingenuous. and absurd. Human nature is what it is, and everyone involved here is evil. There are no angels. There are no good guys, but one side definitely has control of the microphone.

esarbe 5y ago
Thanks for the clarification! I might not agree with your conclusion but I appreciate the effort to explain the point your making.
Nursie 5y ago
> And the OP's attempt to paint one side as some manner of angelic bastion of virtuousness is patently insane, disingenuous. and absurd Your attempt to paint my comments that way is more absurd, as I did no such thing. > everyone involved here is evil Maybe so, but one side literally just tried to overturn an election they lost to hang on to power. They're playing a different game.