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Progress I'd like to see, a toggle to deny all push notification requests... and the modal that precedes the permission request. Alas, since asking for push no
by rektide 5y ago
Progress I'd like to see, a toggle to deny all push notification requests... and the modal that precedes the permission request.
Alas, since asking for push notification permissions requires a user gesture, it wouldn't actually keep 1/6th the pages in the world from opening a spammy "can we notify you" box, which, should you hit yes, THEN opens the permissions. "Oh too many pages are asking for permissions..." "I know, let's make the page have to ask for permission to ask permission" :unicode-squirt-gun: :head:
IMO the whole permissions experience on the web is wrong/crap. The browsers all knew that unless asking for permissions brought up big bold obnoxious browser prompts, many many users would simply not have any idea the page was even asking. But that got to be out of hand, so then we had to make asking for permissions require a click or interaction, need a "use gesture" to kick off.
IMO we've failed by trying to serve everyone. That we are too afraid to make interfaces for good/advanced users is a tragedy. We insist on making only blunted instrument. So the whole experience is such crap.
Ideally there'd be a little permission requests icon with a number by it, or something in the awesome-bar/address-bar that shows: hey, I can do these things. Enable me if you want. Rather than modal & bold, a transactional thing, the page is just ambiently broadcasting what permissions it's happy to make use of. Users can selectively opt in/out whenever they feel like it. Yeah this site has been good, let me subscribe to their feed, let me add notifications. Oh this site can use my gyros/compass? Cool, I'll try that. Rather than the page making a request & expecting an answer, I just want the page to ambiently have requests open, the user not to be prompted but to have some means of checking what's ambiently available, opting in. Yes, many users would simply never know. Perhaps we need a bifurcated experience, options in our browers, browsers built for more discerning users: something we haven't dared do in a long long time. But by compare the current model of permissions is aggressively crappy & a huge attention hog. Simply being able to turn them off would be a help, but we'd still have to suffer the same egrious visual spam that stupid user-gesture requirements have wrought anyways. What a fuck up, what an awful local minima we're trapped in.
- kall 5y agoFYI in Safari desktop, which supports web push, you can turn deny all requests. The same thing works for the other permission types as well.
- tinus_hn 5y agoYet if you clear your cookies regularly in addition to cookie permission pop-ups you get web push request pop-ups, because it’s more effective to request permission and then trigger the browser UI.