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Managers are afraid of remote because it is more work for them. Sucks for them, the 37% will soon become 95% because remote work is self-amplifying: the 60% of

Managers are afraid of remote because it is more work for them. Sucks for them, the 37% will soon become 95% because remote work is self-amplifying: the 60% office is not a good place to work

angrais 5y ago
Do you really believe that 95% of office jobs will become remote? Also, isn't the inverse also as likely, i e., if 60% are remote and the job is more challenging for managers, then they'll find opportunities to replace the 60%?
danans 5y ago
> the 60% office is not a good place to work My office was so crowded before the pandemic that the 60% office might actually be a more pleasant place to work. Less trouble finding conference rooms, bathrooms ... nap rooms. Less packed transit would also make me enjoy my office workday even more. That said, 60% of a previously almost-empty office could indeed be a bad place to work.
- yks 5y ago
  Yes! I was going to the empty office and it was great, now more people have showed up, it's getting crowded and I prefer to WFH again.
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  > less trouble finding conference rooms, bathrooms ... nap rooms. The discussion here is usually uber-focused on tech startups. Most jobs are not like that, they are normal offices without massages and washing machines, and are not overcrowded. But an office filled with 40% of random employees who are constantly making noisy zoom meetings feels more like a customer call center than a place where you can focus. We 're still in the early days of remote and people are still afraid of it/ have not adapted their lives around it. When people settle in this new reality, the desire to see the office is going to wane a lot.
  - everforward 5y ago
    Most people where I work have already adapted to it, we've been remote for like 2 years at this point. Most of my coworkers have already invested in their home office, to the point where it's drastically nicer than their work counterparts. They don't want to go back to the office, they don't want to go back to using the office equipment, and they don't want to feel like they wasted money on their home office. Corporate seems loathe to just go fully remote. We're apparently in a hiring drive; I'm curious if they're trying to overstaff so they have some breathing room for people that quit when they force us back in to the office.
Hermitian909 5y ago
> the 60% office is not a good place to work Why? I've worked in person, ~40% remote, and 100% remote. I thoughtv~40% remote was far and away the best work situation. The only necessary component to make it work was that my team had to be there on the same days. So far as I can tell, for trust building and certain kinds of collaborative work (some of which is super important) nothing beats in person. Given that the survery results indicate most people still don't want full remote, why wouldn't they go with a mixed in-person/remote setup?
staccatomeasure 5y ago
Things will bifurcate into remote and in-person teams/divisions/companies.
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Managers are afraid of remote because it is more work for them. Sucks for them, the 37% will soon become 95% because remote work is self-amplifying: the 60% office is not a good place to work

angrais 5y ago

Do you really believe that 95% of office jobs will become remote? Also, isn't the inverse also as likely, i e., if 60% are remote and the job is more challenging for managers, then they'll find opportunities to replace the 60%?

danans 5y ago

> the 60% office is not a good place to work My office was so crowded before the pandemic that the 60% office might actually be a more pleasant place to work. Less trouble finding conference rooms, bathrooms ... nap rooms. Less packed transit would also make me enjoy my office workday even more. That said, 60% of a previously almost-empty office could indeed be a bad place to work.

yks 5y ago
Yes! I was going to the empty office and it was great, now more people have showed up, it's getting crowded and I prefer to WFH again.
cblconfederate 5y ago
> less trouble finding conference rooms, bathrooms ... nap rooms. The discussion here is usually uber-focused on tech startups. Most jobs are not like that, they are normal offices without massages and washing machines, and are not overcrowded. But an office filled with 40% of random employees who are constantly making noisy zoom meetings feels more like a customer call center than a place where you can focus. We 're still in the early days of remote and people are still afraid of it/ have not adapted their lives around it. When people settle in this new reality, the desire to see the office is going to wane a lot.
- everforward 5y ago
  Most people where I work have already adapted to it, we've been remote for like 2 years at this point. Most of my coworkers have already invested in their home office, to the point where it's drastically nicer than their work counterparts. They don't want to go back to the office, they don't want to go back to using the office equipment, and they don't want to feel like they wasted money on their home office. Corporate seems loathe to just go fully remote. We're apparently in a hiring drive; I'm curious if they're trying to overstaff so they have some breathing room for people that quit when they force us back in to the office.

Hermitian909 5y ago

> the 60% office is not a good place to work Why? I've worked in person, ~40% remote, and 100% remote. I thoughtv~40% remote was far and away the best work situation. The only necessary component to make it work was that my team had to be there on the same days. So far as I can tell, for trust building and certain kinds of collaborative work (some of which is super important) nothing beats in person. Given that the survery results indicate most people still don't want full remote, why wouldn't they go with a mixed in-person/remote setup?

staccatomeasure 5y ago

Things will bifurcate into remote and in-person teams/divisions/companies.

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