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Is there an anternative to the ranking? I don't know if sucs thing exist since everywhere I saw people keep mentioning alexa ranking...

r721 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarweb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarweb
dutchbrit 5y ago
Majestic is the first one that comes to mind.
speedgoose 5y ago
8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 must provide great data. It's not publicly available though. https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns... (CloudFlare stores aggregated data) https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy (well, it's Google)
- jlelse 5y ago
  Cloudflare has Radar: https://radar.cloudflare.com/ https://radar.cloudflare.com/
  - speedgoose 5y ago
    My bad, it's pretty good. (except the map, which is very much this https://xkcd.com/1138/ https://xkcd.com/1138/ )
  - kzrdude 5y ago
    I don't understand how apple.com can rank over youtube.com? In what way is apple a daily service that people must access? I guess some apple service that I don't use like music?
    - quesera 5y ago
      Just a guess, but Apple devices hit Apple services fairly regularly, each requiring a DNS lookup. 1.1.1.1 is Cloudflare's public DNS service.
    - mardifoufs 5y ago
      Probably apple telemetry. At least some of the phoning home is done using apple.com as a domain so it can add up very quickly. If anything I'm surprised the top domains aren't just telemetry endpoints, but I guess telemetry is a good use case for bare IPs so it doesn't show up as much on DNS analytics.
    - skuhn 5y ago
      Cloudflare only has access to DNS requests made to their resolvers, not the amount of bandwidth utilized (which would certainly push Netflix and YouTube up) or the number of requests made. They also have some vaguely defined fudge factors to their rankings. To take a guess at why Apple is so high, I think bundling all of these together might help their rank: - App store downloads - iOS updates - Apple TV+ streaming - Services that iOS / tvOS / macOS devices utilize - Apple Music / iTunes downloads - iCloud (including Private Relay and related traffic)
      - jannes 5y ago
        - push notifications (APNs) Almost every Apple device is constantly connected to these servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Push_Notification_service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Push_Notification_servic...
    - mritzmann 5y ago
      According to NextDNS my MacBooks talks constantly with some apple.com subdomains. Some are blocked by NextDNS for privacy reasons.
    - aembleton 5y ago
      Isn't it the default homepage on Safari? A few years since I've used a Macbook, but I thought it was.
  - rightbyte 5y ago
    Interesting how Tiktok is so high (#1).
  - narrator 5y ago
    How did openjsf.org get in the top 20? Script includes?
- sltkr 5y ago
  Sounds like those would provide rather biased samples because changing your DNS server from whatever you get from your ISP via DHCP is something that approximately no normal person would ever do.
spike021 5y ago
Commented above, but OpenDNS (Cisco Umbrella) has a similar top listing: http://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/umbrella-static/index.html http://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/umbrella-static/index.html
ericpauley 5y ago
Tranco is widely used in academia and open, though it is an aggregation of other rankings.

r721 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarweb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarweb

dutchbrit 5y ago

Majestic is the first one that comes to mind.

speedgoose 5y ago

8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 must provide great data. It's not publicly available though. https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns... (CloudFlare stores aggregated data) https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy (well, it's Google)

jlelse 5y ago
Cloudflare has Radar: https://radar.cloudflare.com/ https://radar.cloudflare.com/
- speedgoose 5y ago
  My bad, it's pretty good. (except the map, which is very much this https://xkcd.com/1138/ https://xkcd.com/1138/ )
- kzrdude 5y ago
  I don't understand how apple.com can rank over youtube.com? In what way is apple a daily service that people must access? I guess some apple service that I don't use like music?
  - quesera 5y ago
    Just a guess, but Apple devices hit Apple services fairly regularly, each requiring a DNS lookup. 1.1.1.1 is Cloudflare's public DNS service.
  - mardifoufs 5y ago
    Probably apple telemetry. At least some of the phoning home is done using apple.com as a domain so it can add up very quickly. If anything I'm surprised the top domains aren't just telemetry endpoints, but I guess telemetry is a good use case for bare IPs so it doesn't show up as much on DNS analytics.
  - skuhn 5y ago
    Cloudflare only has access to DNS requests made to their resolvers, not the amount of bandwidth utilized (which would certainly push Netflix and YouTube up) or the number of requests made. They also have some vaguely defined fudge factors to their rankings. To take a guess at why Apple is so high, I think bundling all of these together might help their rank: - App store downloads - iOS updates - Apple TV+ streaming - Services that iOS / tvOS / macOS devices utilize - Apple Music / iTunes downloads - iCloud (including Private Relay and related traffic)
    - jannes 5y ago
      - push notifications (APNs) Almost every Apple device is constantly connected to these servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Push_Notification_service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Push_Notification_servic...
  - mritzmann 5y ago
    According to NextDNS my MacBooks talks constantly with some apple.com subdomains. Some are blocked by NextDNS for privacy reasons.
  - aembleton 5y ago
    Isn't it the default homepage on Safari? A few years since I've used a Macbook, but I thought it was.
- rightbyte 5y ago
  Interesting how Tiktok is so high (#1).
- narrator 5y ago
  How did openjsf.org get in the top 20? Script includes?
sltkr 5y ago
Sounds like those would provide rather biased samples because changing your DNS server from whatever you get from your ISP via DHCP is something that approximately no normal person would ever do.

spike021 5y ago

Commented above, but OpenDNS (Cisco Umbrella) has a similar top listing: http://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/umbrella-static/index.html http://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/umbrella-static/index.html

ericpauley 5y ago

Tranco is widely used in academia and open, though it is an aggregation of other rankings.