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Would you care to compare this with for example @localfirst/state, automerge and automerge-rs (latter two provide the CRDTs, i.e. similar to Yjs)? https://gith

Would you care to compare this with for example @localfirst/state, automerge and automerge-rs (latter two provide the CRDTs, i.e. similar to Yjs)? https://github.com/local-first-web/state https://github.com/local-first-web/state https://github.com/automerge/automerge https://github.com/automerge/automerge https://github.com/automerge/automerge-rs https://github.com/automerge/automerge-rs By the way despite that particular repo (@localfirst/state) last being touched 6 months ago, Herb Caudill definitely seems still active in this space (I believe he's been working on other parts of this more recently -- e.g. ideas about authentication), and I think automerge development itself (Martin Kleppmann) is quite active right now leading up to a 1.0 release which seems fairly imminent, for which a lot of fundamental work has been done, also coordinating with automerge-rs.

YousefED 5y ago
Hi! Great questions :) First of all, SyncedStore does not implement any CRDT algorithms. Credits for this go to Yjs [1] (and its author Kevin), which it uses as underlying CRDT. Yjs and Automerge are (afaik) the two most commonly used CRDT implementations. Both have their pros and cons, but Yjs has focused a lot on performance [2]. Automerge has a bit friendlier "Immer style" [3] API. I'm not too familiar with @localfirst/state, but it seems to add a Redux style API on top of Automerge. My approach with SyncedStore was really to provide an API on top of Yjs that's as simple as possible to use in React / Vue / Svelte or plain JS app. I.e.: only use a single React Hook to observe changes, and use regular Javascript assigments to update values. The API is inspired mostly by Reactive Programming libraries such as MobX [4] (from the same author as Immer). Hope you're still following along :) Maybe it helps to compare the TODO-MVC applications, as both SyncedStore (https://github.com/YousefED/SyncedStore/tree/main/examples https://github.com/YousefED/SyncedStore/tree/main/examples) and @localfirst/state (https://github.com/local-first-web/state/tree/main/examples/todo https://github.com/local-first-web/state/tree/main/examples/...) have implemented these as examples! [1]: https://github.com/yjs/yjs https://github.com/yjs/yjs [2]: https://github.com/dmonad/crdt-benchmarks https://github.com/dmonad/crdt-benchmarks [3]: https://github.com/immerjs/immer https://github.com/immerjs/immer [4]: https://mobx.js.org/ https://mobx.js.org/

YousefED 5y ago

Hi! Great questions :) First of all, SyncedStore does not implement any CRDT algorithms. Credits for this go to Yjs [1] (and its author Kevin), which it uses as underlying CRDT. Yjs and Automerge are (afaik) the two most commonly used CRDT implementations. Both have their pros and cons, but Yjs has focused a lot on performance [2]. Automerge has a bit friendlier "Immer style" [3] API. I'm not too familiar with @localfirst/state, but it seems to add a Redux style API on top of Automerge. My approach with SyncedStore was really to provide an API on top of Yjs that's as simple as possible to use in React / Vue / Svelte or plain JS app. I.e.: only use a single React Hook to observe changes, and use regular Javascript assigments to update values. The API is inspired mostly by Reactive Programming libraries such as MobX [4] (from the same author as Immer). Hope you're still following along :) Maybe it helps to compare the TODO-MVC applications, as both SyncedStore (https://github.com/YousefED/SyncedStore/tree/main/examples https://github.com/YousefED/SyncedStore/tree/main/examples) and @localfirst/state (https://github.com/local-first-web/state/tree/main/examples/todo https://github.com/local-first-web/state/tree/main/examples/...) have implemented these as examples! [1]: https://github.com/yjs/yjs https://github.com/yjs/yjs [2]: https://github.com/dmonad/crdt-benchmarks https://github.com/dmonad/crdt-benchmarks [3]: https://github.com/immerjs/immer https://github.com/immerjs/immer [4]: https://mobx.js.org/ https://mobx.js.org/