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There is an insult in schools for kids who have default skins in games. This is basically laughing at kid's being poor, can't stop it. But game producers are a

There is an insult in schools for kids who have default skins in games. This is basically laughing at kid's being poor, can't stop it. But game producers are actively creating those environments where even if its just cosmetics you are still in a lower caste if not buying into cosmetics. There are also pattens by Ubi or activation where you are places on server with higher rated player so when they dominate you their characters with weapons and skins are presented in a kill cam. That is to create subconscious idea of getting those to play better. Thirdly on Valve and buying/selling items. Arcanas are skins in Dota. They are very expensive as its alternative character skin with new voice lines and visuals for skill. Nowdays arcanas are expensive, none tradable/marketable, and more importantly one time exclusive. Its massive FOMO pressure. Back in the day you could buy an arcana and while it costed you a bit you could sell it back at small % loss, not anymore. Those companies are doing all of it cuz it makes them piles of cash, as those tactics while predatory - do work - and work very well.

webkike 5y ago
Kids making fun of poorer kids for not having nicer cosmetics is absolutely nothing new… are we really going to pin the blame on this on the designer clothes brands, or the educational environment we are raising children? I think people with nicer skins are more highly invested in the game both literally and figuratively, and thus are more likely to be better. I don’t think kill cams are the way valve is trying to convince you to buy skins. And for your last point, yes that sucks but is that any worse than the default experience for literally every multiplayer video game on the market?
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Why can't we blame both? Why must we encourage a society that values wasting money as a sign of status? The only people benefiting from this are the people selling the bullshit.
  - webkike 5y ago
    It’s not necessarily a sign of status, people think the cosmetics look nice. Why must I suffer a worse experience just because you think it’s a waste of money? It’s an M rated game, kids shouldn’t be playing it in the first place
- me_me_me 5y ago
  >Kids making fun of poorer kids for not having nicer cosmetics is absolutely nothing new I said it, but it seems like you are ok with it, be it physical or virtual goods? > I think people with nicer skins are more highly invested in the game both literally and figuratively, and thus are more likely to be better. I don’t think kill cams are the way valve is trying to convince you to buy skins. Please read what people write, instead of creating misconstrued replies. Its not valve, its patented method of placing you with HIGHER skill opponent who has skins/weapons that you dont have in order to heard you into conclusion that you should get skills. > I don’t think kill cams are the way X company is trying to convince you to buy skins. You don't have to think. They filled patent for this, how daft one need to get to clam they mean the opposite of what the patent they filled for. Like how do you arrive at that conclusion?! Honestly how? This is not 100% effective method, but example of subtle emotional manipulation of vulnerable player-base, like kids/teens into spending money. > And for your last point, yes that sucks but is that any worse than the default experience for literally every multiplayer video game on the market? What? What is your point really? Shitty practices are ok as long everyone is using them? 'Mercury in your cereal?' - but every brand has them so that makes it ok.
  - webkike 5y ago
    > > Kids making fun of poorer kids for not having nicer cosmetics is absolutely nothing new > I said it, but it seems like you are ok with it, be it physical or virtual goods? This is absolutely not what I said and incredibly insulting of an implication. If you’re going to talk about misreading peoples comments, please practice what you preach. I will not be responding to the rest of this comment because you have convinced me you’re not approaching this dialogue in good faith.

webkike 5y ago

Kids making fun of poorer kids for not having nicer cosmetics is absolutely nothing new… are we really going to pin the blame on this on the designer clothes brands, or the educational environment we are raising children? I think people with nicer skins are more highly invested in the game both literally and figuratively, and thus are more likely to be better. I don’t think kill cams are the way valve is trying to convince you to buy skins. And for your last point, yes that sucks but is that any worse than the default experience for literally every multiplayer video game on the market?

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
Why can't we blame both? Why must we encourage a society that values wasting money as a sign of status? The only people benefiting from this are the people selling the bullshit.
- webkike 5y ago
  It’s not necessarily a sign of status, people think the cosmetics look nice. Why must I suffer a worse experience just because you think it’s a waste of money? It’s an M rated game, kids shouldn’t be playing it in the first place
me_me_me 5y ago
>Kids making fun of poorer kids for not having nicer cosmetics is absolutely nothing new I said it, but it seems like you are ok with it, be it physical or virtual goods? > I think people with nicer skins are more highly invested in the game both literally and figuratively, and thus are more likely to be better. I don’t think kill cams are the way valve is trying to convince you to buy skins. Please read what people write, instead of creating misconstrued replies. Its not valve, its patented method of placing you with HIGHER skill opponent who has skins/weapons that you dont have in order to heard you into conclusion that you should get skills. > I don’t think kill cams are the way X company is trying to convince you to buy skins. You don't have to think. They filled patent for this, how daft one need to get to clam they mean the opposite of what the patent they filled for. Like how do you arrive at that conclusion?! Honestly how? This is not 100% effective method, but example of subtle emotional manipulation of vulnerable player-base, like kids/teens into spending money. > And for your last point, yes that sucks but is that any worse than the default experience for literally every multiplayer video game on the market? What? What is your point really? Shitty practices are ok as long everyone is using them? 'Mercury in your cereal?' - but every brand has them so that makes it ok.
- webkike 5y ago
  > > Kids making fun of poorer kids for not having nicer cosmetics is absolutely nothing new > I said it, but it seems like you are ok with it, be it physical or virtual goods? This is absolutely not what I said and incredibly insulting of an implication. If you’re going to talk about misreading peoples comments, please practice what you preach. I will not be responding to the rest of this comment because you have convinced me you’re not approaching this dialogue in good faith.