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I find it interesting you see Apple a national asset needing special scrutiny. It might as well be true, but then you should also expect other countries to sta

I find it interesting you see Apple a national asset needing special scrutiny. It might as well be true, but then you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party.

moralestapia 5y ago
>you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party That is exactly what happened and that's why they approached Tim Cook.
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dariusj18 5y ago
Lockheed Martin is a private company with all sorts of laws on what they can and cannot do with foreign countries. It is not weird to create special categories for niche protected industries.
- makeitdouble 5y ago
  Would Lockheed Martin also be negociating tax breaks with Ireland and forefront line development costs of factories in Taiwan ? Or provide separated enclaves for EU countries ? Right now Apple is an international consumer company at its core, which makes its positioning a lot different than defense contractors or power producers for instance.
  - dariusj18 5y ago
    We used to regulate a lot more of consumer electronics ability to operate overseas, those restrictions have eased, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't come back if companies start to act irresponsibly. Also, yes, Lockheed Martin does operate in different countries (Ireland included) and most likely does negotiate quite heavily with factories around the world.
    - makeitdouble 5y ago
      Thanks, I had a different image of their limitations.
titzer 5y ago
> a national asset Or a threat. An entity with a trillion dollars in reserves and devices in billions of people's hands, including hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of government employees. That's a lot of leverage.
onepointsixC 5y ago
Of course it needs special scrutiny. What if in the midst of a break down in talks between the US and China, Chinese regulators come calling and say that either Apple provides the iCloud backup data of a staffer of an America senator or else they will be immediately banned from the Chinese market.
- angio 5y ago
  Maybe at that point Apple can stop spying on its users, that way as an EU citizen I get the US government to stop spying on me too (Apple was part of PRISM).

moralestapia 5y ago

>you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party That is exactly what happened and that's why they approached Tim Cook.

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dariusj18 5y ago

Lockheed Martin is a private company with all sorts of laws on what they can and cannot do with foreign countries. It is not weird to create special categories for niche protected industries.

makeitdouble 5y ago
Would Lockheed Martin also be negociating tax breaks with Ireland and forefront line development costs of factories in Taiwan ? Or provide separated enclaves for EU countries ? Right now Apple is an international consumer company at its core, which makes its positioning a lot different than defense contractors or power producers for instance.
- dariusj18 5y ago
  We used to regulate a lot more of consumer electronics ability to operate overseas, those restrictions have eased, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't come back if companies start to act irresponsibly. Also, yes, Lockheed Martin does operate in different countries (Ireland included) and most likely does negotiate quite heavily with factories around the world.
  - makeitdouble 5y ago
    Thanks, I had a different image of their limitations.

titzer 5y ago

> a national asset Or a threat. An entity with a trillion dollars in reserves and devices in billions of people's hands, including hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of government employees. That's a lot of leverage.

onepointsixC 5y ago

Of course it needs special scrutiny. What if in the midst of a break down in talks between the US and China, Chinese regulators come calling and say that either Apple provides the iCloud backup data of a staffer of an America senator or else they will be immediately banned from the Chinese market.

angio 5y ago
Maybe at that point Apple can stop spying on its users, that way as an EU citizen I get the US government to stop spying on me too (Apple was part of PRISM).