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I was in the military for years. Vaccines galore for any and every conceivable illness. I was required to have flu shots. Every single flu shot I've had gave me

I was in the military for years. Vaccines galore for any and every conceivable illness. I was required to have flu shots. Every single flu shot I've had gave me the flu. Full blown sickness, within a day of receiving the shot. Since leaving the military I've not had a flu shot and I've not had the flu. Obviously it's anecdotal but you'll never convince me to start taking flu shots after such repeated experiences.

bink 5y ago
That's not how flu shots work. You might have had an immune response that had you feeling down, but flu shots don't give you the flu.
- potta_coffee 5y ago
  It's semantics whether or not full-blown flu symptoms are "the flu" or not; I get the flu shot, then I get sick.
  - edmundsauto 5y ago
    Except you aren’t going to risk getting very sick (pneumonia) from the vaccinated response. And you aren’t going to give the virus to someone else.
    - potta_coffee 5y ago
      Enjoy your moral superiority, and I'll enjoy not feeling like dog crap for a week after getting the shot.
      - spurgu 5y ago
        I find it insane that someone would argue against your personal experience like that. I've had the feeling all along that once we've started getting people forced into perpetual Covid vaccinations it's gonna move into seasonal influenza vaccines. Judging by this discourse my hunch is not far off.
  - rixed 5y ago
    Why engage in discussions when semantics does not matter?
paulryanrogers 5y ago
Technically I think your reaction is from the immune response to the vaccine. Which is unpleasant but not contagious. Now real flu viruses may have not yet given you symptoms since you stopped vaccinating. But it's possible you're becoming a carrier of the virus that spreads it to more vulnerable people. Some of whom may not be able to get vaccinated.
- potta_coffee 5y ago
  It's my choice not to take shots that make me sick, and no I won't take them again. It's unfortunate that some people have fragile health, but it's not really my problem. No amount of brow-beating will make it my problem. No, I'm not a calloused individual that doesn't care about others. I don't believe that anyone is required to undergo medical procedures in order to benefit me, and I will not undergo medical procedures for anyone else, especially considering my experience with those procedures (significant illness, every time).
  - rixed 5y ago
    Mind you, you sound 100% like someone who do not care about others. But your decision to not take flu shots sounds totally reasonable given you apparently get a bad adverse reaction every time. You therefore belong to that group of people whose health is too weak to get vaccinated, I guess. I hope you won't catch the flu, and will keep getting vaccinated whenever I get the chance since I'm lucky enough that I've never felt any illness from any vaccine (but got flu once and had to stay in bed, half unconscious, for almost a day).
    - spurgu 5y ago
      I don't know what high horse bubble you live in, but in my almost 40 years on this planet I've only met one single person who has ever had a flu shot and he's younger than me. Granted I have to live in another kind of bubble. My currently 70+ year old parents and aunt, as well as my 80+ old mother-in-law, have never had a flu shot (until my aunt this winter). It definitely has nothing to do with "not caring about others". What a malicious human being you seem to be. The vast majority of people just aren't that worried about the flu. It's a natural part of life for most people. For old people and immunocompromised it's relevant, and for them it's obviously their choice to defend against it - and I've started recommending elders in my community to get flu shots (if they want!), even though it only has around 40% efficacy. Vaccinating kids or young people? Wow. I was sacked for 2 days both with my first and second jab. Next one I'm just gonna let my immune system ride it out. Arrogant people like you convince me.

bink 5y ago

That's not how flu shots work. You might have had an immune response that had you feeling down, but flu shots don't give you the flu.

potta_coffee 5y ago
It's semantics whether or not full-blown flu symptoms are "the flu" or not; I get the flu shot, then I get sick.
- edmundsauto 5y ago
  Except you aren’t going to risk getting very sick (pneumonia) from the vaccinated response. And you aren’t going to give the virus to someone else.
  - potta_coffee 5y ago
    Enjoy your moral superiority, and I'll enjoy not feeling like dog crap for a week after getting the shot.
    - spurgu 5y ago
      I find it insane that someone would argue against your personal experience like that. I've had the feeling all along that once we've started getting people forced into perpetual Covid vaccinations it's gonna move into seasonal influenza vaccines. Judging by this discourse my hunch is not far off.
- rixed 5y ago
  Why engage in discussions when semantics does not matter?

paulryanrogers 5y ago

Technically I think your reaction is from the immune response to the vaccine. Which is unpleasant but not contagious. Now real flu viruses may have not yet given you symptoms since you stopped vaccinating. But it's possible you're becoming a carrier of the virus that spreads it to more vulnerable people. Some of whom may not be able to get vaccinated.

potta_coffee 5y ago
It's my choice not to take shots that make me sick, and no I won't take them again. It's unfortunate that some people have fragile health, but it's not really my problem. No amount of brow-beating will make it my problem. No, I'm not a calloused individual that doesn't care about others. I don't believe that anyone is required to undergo medical procedures in order to benefit me, and I will not undergo medical procedures for anyone else, especially considering my experience with those procedures (significant illness, every time).
- rixed 5y ago
  Mind you, you sound 100% like someone who do not care about others. But your decision to not take flu shots sounds totally reasonable given you apparently get a bad adverse reaction every time. You therefore belong to that group of people whose health is too weak to get vaccinated, I guess. I hope you won't catch the flu, and will keep getting vaccinated whenever I get the chance since I'm lucky enough that I've never felt any illness from any vaccine (but got flu once and had to stay in bed, half unconscious, for almost a day).
  - spurgu 5y ago
    I don't know what high horse bubble you live in, but in my almost 40 years on this planet I've only met one single person who has ever had a flu shot and he's younger than me. Granted I have to live in another kind of bubble. My currently 70+ year old parents and aunt, as well as my 80+ old mother-in-law, have never had a flu shot (until my aunt this winter). It definitely has nothing to do with "not caring about others". What a malicious human being you seem to be. The vast majority of people just aren't that worried about the flu. It's a natural part of life for most people. For old people and immunocompromised it's relevant, and for them it's obviously their choice to defend against it - and I've started recommending elders in my community to get flu shots (if they want!), even though it only has around 40% efficacy. Vaccinating kids or young people? Wow. I was sacked for 2 days both with my first and second jab. Next one I'm just gonna let my immune system ride it out. Arrogant people like you convince me.