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Seems like a healthy, well-adjusted response! Something didn't work out one time? NEVER DO IT AGAIN!

pavel_lishin 5y ago
Commenter complaints about negative, unproductive responses to things they've posted; immediately gets negative, unproductive response.
- varsketiz 5y ago
  Why do you consider it unproductive? I think the perspective provided is very reasonable - if something did not work once, maybe you shouldn't stop doing it forever. What do you think would be a productive response to this complaint?
  - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
    Actually I think it's on you to say why you don't think the response was unproductive.
    - varsketiz 5y ago
      I did that in my comment by rephrasing slingnow. That I think was the productive bit of their comment. I think the unproductive bit was that dawnerd just wanted to vent and was not asking for feedback, so giving them feedback... is unproductive :) But then, if you are posting something in a forum where people can comment on what you wrote, are you really not asking for feedback?
      - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
        mmm, I'd say that it would to be silly to complain about feedback but just posting something doesn't mean you're asking for it.
  - pavel_lishin 5y ago
    Because it's just snarky.
    - varsketiz 5y ago
      I would say it's poking fun, rather than snarky. Also, even if you consider it snarky, it's more than "just" snarky. It has some insight in it.
  - nxrabl 5y ago
    The perspective is reasonable, but the tone is sarcastic and combative. Much as we might wish otherwise, humans are not beings of pure logic, and when we are 'attacked', especially in public, we shut down and become unresponsive to even quite reasonable feedback. Your rephrasing of the comment does not come with this emotional barb and is infinitely better for it. I've seen the argument that in order to engage on the internet you should be thick-skinned and prepared to take a certain amount of sharp criticism if you put your work forward for comment, and that's all true, but equally, as commenters, what are we here for if not to present our own thoughts and ideas in a convincing way? If someone makes a comment in a way that they know is not going to be seriously considered by the person they're responding to, all they're doing is showboating for folks who already agree with them.
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  It's not unproductive and it's clearly poking fun. "Had one bad experience, never did it again" is, to put it bluntly, immature. "Only do things that immediately result in a positive experience" is a great recipe for a life and career that descends into grey nothingness.
  - cole-k 5y ago
    I think it's just a difference in attitude. Some people (like myself) prefer to be treated with more respect than a snarky comment. You can attribute that to being sensitive if you'd like. I think other commenters think more along the lines of, "It's the internet, I'm (sort of) anonymous, if you don't like what I say, T.S." Personally, I think that aside from being rude, the comment in question ignores the fact that the original commenter stated they saw other people receive snarky responses, and after receiving those responses themselves decided they'd rather not be criticized. I think they'd know better whether their life or career require exposure on HN.
iamjake648 5y ago
lol this is exactly what people are talking about, get a life.
cblconfederate 5y ago
how many times would be enough?

Commenter complaints about negative, unproductive responses to things they've posted; immediately gets negative, unproductive response.

varsketiz 5y ago
Why do you consider it unproductive? I think the perspective provided is very reasonable - if something did not work once, maybe you shouldn't stop doing it forever. What do you think would be a productive response to this complaint?
- HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
  Actually I think it's on you to say why you don't think the response was unproductive.
  - varsketiz 5y ago
    I did that in my comment by rephrasing slingnow. That I think was the productive bit of their comment. I think the unproductive bit was that dawnerd just wanted to vent and was not asking for feedback, so giving them feedback... is unproductive :) But then, if you are posting something in a forum where people can comment on what you wrote, are you really not asking for feedback?
    - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
      mmm, I'd say that it would to be silly to complain about feedback but just posting something doesn't mean you're asking for it.
- pavel_lishin 5y ago
  Because it's just snarky.
  - varsketiz 5y ago
    I would say it's poking fun, rather than snarky. Also, even if you consider it snarky, it's more than "just" snarky. It has some insight in it.
- nxrabl 5y ago
  The perspective is reasonable, but the tone is sarcastic and combative. Much as we might wish otherwise, humans are not beings of pure logic, and when we are 'attacked', especially in public, we shut down and become unresponsive to even quite reasonable feedback. Your rephrasing of the comment does not come with this emotional barb and is infinitely better for it. I've seen the argument that in order to engage on the internet you should be thick-skinned and prepared to take a certain amount of sharp criticism if you put your work forward for comment, and that's all true, but equally, as commenters, what are we here for if not to present our own thoughts and ideas in a convincing way? If someone makes a comment in a way that they know is not going to be seriously considered by the person they're responding to, all they're doing is showboating for folks who already agree with them.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
It's not unproductive and it's clearly poking fun. "Had one bad experience, never did it again" is, to put it bluntly, immature. "Only do things that immediately result in a positive experience" is a great recipe for a life and career that descends into grey nothingness.
- cole-k 5y ago
  I think it's just a difference in attitude. Some people (like myself) prefer to be treated with more respect than a snarky comment. You can attribute that to being sensitive if you'd like. I think other commenters think more along the lines of, "It's the internet, I'm (sort of) anonymous, if you don't like what I say, T.S." Personally, I think that aside from being rude, the comment in question ignores the fact that the original commenter stated they saw other people receive snarky responses, and after receiving those responses themselves decided they'd rather not be criticized. I think they'd know better whether their life or career require exposure on HN.

iamjake648 5y ago

lol this is exactly what people are talking about, get a life.

cblconfederate 5y ago

how many times would be enough?