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What I especially detest is the implication that if you disagree with Twitter's banning Trump, then you must be a Trump supporter. It's the epitome of the "firs

by samhw 5y ago

What I especially detest is the implication that if you disagree with Twitter's banning Trump, then you must be a Trump supporter. It's the epitome of the "first they came for X" strategy. I can disagree with Trump, and still also disagree with the precedent of arbitrarily banning a political figure for much less than other figures and groups are allowed to get away with.

op00to 5y ago
He was using Twitter to try to overthrow the country. Please.
- samhw 5y ago
  And what exactly did he post on Twitter to 'try to overthrow the country'? I'm not a Trump supporter in the slightest – I think he's a ridiculous buffoon – but I loathe even more the politicisation of truth, and the idea that anything goes, provided it attacks the right people. What you're saying is not true. That shouldn't be a political statement.
- elzbardico 5y ago
  Really. I am not a trump fan but this is completely bolocks. Yeah, good for political discourse, but not something reasonable people really believe. Don’t live in America though, maybe I am wrong.
  - samhw 5y ago
    Likewise, I'm also not a Trump fan and also not American (I'm British), but the American centre-left perspective on the Jan 6 riots is utterly ridiculous. It's yet more predictable histrionics from the bored suburban housewives who - deeply insultingly - arrogate to call themselves the #Resistance, and other such privileged bollocks. There is no evidence whatever that it was an effort to take over the country - much less that Trump, or anyone beyond possibly a couple of wingnut far-right House reps, conspired to bring it about. It was some angry hicks going on a rumpus. As a side note, it's disturbing to see that 'the paranoid style in American politics' now extends to the (centre-centre-)Left as well as the Right. First it was the ludicrous fact-free conspiracism about Russia conniving to install Trump as President; now it's the (transitively contradictory) theory that Trump, unable to cheat the election, tried to bring about a coup - not via the enormous tools at his disposal as President, but by supposedly encouraging some morons in fancy dress to storm the Capitol building and then aimlessly wander around stealing petty artefacts. I suppose the paranoid style is simply a response by the dispossessed - but this is the first time that the rich and comfortable suburban centre has experienced being dispossessed.

by samhw 5y ago

op00to 5y ago

He was using Twitter to try to overthrow the country. Please.

samhw 5y ago
And what exactly did he post on Twitter to 'try to overthrow the country'? I'm not a Trump supporter in the slightest – I think he's a ridiculous buffoon – but I loathe even more the politicisation of truth, and the idea that anything goes, provided it attacks the right people. What you're saying is not true. That shouldn't be a political statement.
elzbardico 5y ago
Really. I am not a trump fan but this is completely bolocks. Yeah, good for political discourse, but not something reasonable people really believe. Don’t live in America though, maybe I am wrong.
- samhw 5y ago
  Likewise, I'm also not a Trump fan and also not American (I'm British), but the American centre-left perspective on the Jan 6 riots is utterly ridiculous. It's yet more predictable histrionics from the bored suburban housewives who - deeply insultingly - arrogate to call themselves the #Resistance, and other such privileged bollocks. There is no evidence whatever that it was an effort to take over the country - much less that Trump, or anyone beyond possibly a couple of wingnut far-right House reps, conspired to bring it about. It was some angry hicks going on a rumpus. As a side note, it's disturbing to see that 'the paranoid style in American politics' now extends to the (centre-centre-)Left as well as the Right. First it was the ludicrous fact-free conspiracism about Russia conniving to install Trump as President; now it's the (transitively contradictory) theory that Trump, unable to cheat the election, tried to bring about a coup - not via the enormous tools at his disposal as President, but by supposedly encouraging some morons in fancy dress to storm the Capitol building and then aimlessly wander around stealing petty artefacts. I suppose the paranoid style is simply a response by the dispossessed - but this is the first time that the rich and comfortable suburban centre has experienced being dispossessed.