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At what point does something like this become a national security issue? I know these modern titans of industry answer to no one, but perhaps they should?
by moogly 5y ago
At what point does something like this become a national security issue?
I know these modern titans of industry answer to no one, but perhaps they should?
- makeitdouble 5y agoI find it interesting you see Apple a national asset needing special scrutiny. It might as well be true, but then you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party.
- moralestapia 5y ago>you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party That is exactly what happened and that's why they approached Tim Cook.
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- dariusj18 5y agoLockheed Martin is a private company with all sorts of laws on what they can and cannot do with foreign countries. It is not weird to create special categories for niche protected industries.
- makeitdouble 5y agoWould Lockheed Martin also be negociating tax breaks with Ireland and forefront line development costs of factories in Taiwan ? Or provide separated enclaves for EU countries ? Right now Apple is an international consumer company at its core, which makes its positioning a lot different than defense contractors or power producers for instance.
- dariusj18 5y agoWe used to regulate a lot more of consumer electronics ability to operate overseas, those restrictions have eased, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't come back if companies start to act irresponsibly. Also, yes, Lockheed Martin does operate in different countries (Ireland included) and most likely does negotiate quite heavily with factories around the world.
- makeitdouble 5y agoThanks, I had a different image of their limitations.
- titzer 5y ago> a national asset Or a threat. An entity with a trillion dollars in reserves and devices in billions of people's hands, including hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of government employees. That's a lot of leverage.
- onepointsixC 5y agoOf course it needs special scrutiny. What if in the midst of a break down in talks between the US and China, Chinese regulators come calling and say that either Apple provides the iCloud backup data of a staffer of an America senator or else they will be immediately banned from the Chinese market.
- angio 5y agoMaybe at that point Apple can stop spying on its users, that way as an EU citizen I get the US government to stop spying on me too (Apple was part of PRISM).
- lazyeye 5y agoThe modern titans of industry are certainly answerable to their govt in one country at least.
- RustyConsul 5y agoAccording to the markets, accountability seems to be a liability. When they started axing IPO's, capital fled China and the dollar strengthened.
- errcorrectcode 5y agoMegacorps own the US government. It's called lobbying and super PACs. Extreme corruption so ubiquitous, most people forget about it.
- questiondev 5y agothey gotta answer to someone. this is getting ridiculous.
- smoldesu 5y agoI think it became a security issue when Apple bent to China's desire to keep iCloud servers in a domestic datacenter. If Apple gives up control so willingly for a foreign nation, one can only imagine how deeply in bed they are with American intelligence agencies. National security issue, though? The US government has no desire to call Apple on security or privacy. Doing so would be a pure disadvantage for them.
- olalonde 5y agoWhose national security?
- sneak 5y agoIt is absolutely a national security issue - that is why the CCP makes these demands of the largest phone manufacturer in all of their country.
- starik36 5y ago> modern titans of industry answer to no one What do you mean? They certainly answer to China.