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I used to use my bank's mobile web interface to monitor my balances (with Zabbix, it even alerted when I'd been paid haha) The mobile page asked for the full p

by corobo 5y ago

I used to use my bank's mobile web interface to monitor my balances (with Zabbix, it even alerted when I'd been paid haha) The mobile page asked for the full passcode whereas the regular page asked for specific digits which, while still automatable, wasn't as easy The code/method might have been useful to others at the time (especially your Mints and that) but I didn't want them changing it. The mobile site was, as far as I could tell, a relic from an older era that I stumbled across by accident Everything's starting to catch up now so it's no longer needed. My bank now (Monzo) even does webhooks for transactions if you set them up :) On the topic of YouTube I really don't get the reaction to removing dislikes, seems a bit overblown. I am biased in that I've never noticed them other than that one Futurama neutral video that keeps them synced with the positive votes though (which ofc is now broken) Incidentally removing the number and replacing it with a big DISLIKE in caps makes it much more noticeable. I am way more likely to click it if the video is bad now, for whatever that matters Edit for OP edit: > Now w/o the dislikes count, all devs have a much harder time filtering useless videos This is the only argument I've seen opposing the removal of dislikes so far. Are there any others? Even silly reasons, anything other than "bad tutorials tho"

behnamoh 5y ago
YT is similar to Coursera, edX, Udacity, etc. in that they all offer tutorial videos. But with YT as a platform, it's the viewer's job to find the best one whereas Coursera and others already review the videos before publishing. Now imagine YT that has enjoyed thousands of additional tutorial videos due to the pandemic and remote classes suddenly stops showing you what other people thought of such tutorials without offering an alternative (such as a "reviewed by YT" badge, etc.) That makes the platform shockingly unusable. I already click on fewer recommended videos and have less incentive to contribute to the platform by clicking the dislike button because I know it will all be for nothing.
- corobo 5y ago
  Clicking the dislike button boosts the video as much as clicking the like button anyway. You're doing everyone a disservice by interacting with bad videos
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    Interesting. Do you have a source for this? I'd find it really surprising if YT was treating negative signal as positive signal in this specific way.
    - behnamoh 5y ago
      Not OP, but I think that infamous YT Rewind video is a good example.
    - corobo 5y ago
      Unfortunately no. I heard it back in like 2014 or something when I was doing YouTube stuff. I did try to find a decent source but came up blank, too many articles about dislike count being disabled in the way currently and I can't find a decent set of keywords Maybe it is just a meme I'm spreading inadvertently
DrammBA 5y ago
> This is the only argument I've seen opposing the removal of dislikes so far. Are there any others? Even silly reasons, anything other than "bad tutorials tho" Is that argument not enough? It is now harder to distinguish good videos in a video platform filled with sub-par content, any other argument would pale in comparison.
- corobo 5y ago
  Edit: the dislike counter on this comment is 2, you can ignore it! At least here the site makes it hard to read if you're visually impaired. Now that's a dislike button! For me, no. I've never used the dislikes for this, it seems like such a crowbarred in reason everyone latched on to for lack of a better argument I tend to judge the content on the content
  - DrammBA 5y ago
    Personally I don't have the time to judge all the potential content I want to see on the content itself, so I have to rely on indirect factors like dislike to quickly dismiss a video.
  - behnamoh 5y ago
    >> I tend to judge the content on the content It's possible to do it for image and maybe even music, but as with videos, you'd have to spend time watching segments to get a sense of quality. That's arguably time consuming.
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by corobo 5y ago

behnamoh 5y ago

YT is similar to Coursera, edX, Udacity, etc. in that they all offer tutorial videos. But with YT as a platform, it's the viewer's job to find the best one whereas Coursera and others already review the videos before publishing. Now imagine YT that has enjoyed thousands of additional tutorial videos due to the pandemic and remote classes suddenly stops showing you what other people thought of such tutorials without offering an alternative (such as a "reviewed by YT" badge, etc.) That makes the platform shockingly unusable. I already click on fewer recommended videos and have less incentive to contribute to the platform by clicking the dislike button because I know it will all be for nothing.

corobo 5y ago
Clicking the dislike button boosts the video as much as clicking the like button anyway. You're doing everyone a disservice by interacting with bad videos
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  Interesting. Do you have a source for this? I'd find it really surprising if YT was treating negative signal as positive signal in this specific way.
  - behnamoh 5y ago
    Not OP, but I think that infamous YT Rewind video is a good example.
  - corobo 5y ago
    Unfortunately no. I heard it back in like 2014 or something when I was doing YouTube stuff. I did try to find a decent source but came up blank, too many articles about dislike count being disabled in the way currently and I can't find a decent set of keywords Maybe it is just a meme I'm spreading inadvertently

DrammBA 5y ago

> This is the only argument I've seen opposing the removal of dislikes so far. Are there any others? Even silly reasons, anything other than "bad tutorials tho" Is that argument not enough? It is now harder to distinguish good videos in a video platform filled with sub-par content, any other argument would pale in comparison.

corobo 5y ago
Edit: the dislike counter on this comment is 2, you can ignore it! At least here the site makes it hard to read if you're visually impaired. Now that's a dislike button! For me, no. I've never used the dislikes for this, it seems like such a crowbarred in reason everyone latched on to for lack of a better argument I tend to judge the content on the content
- DrammBA 5y ago
  Personally I don't have the time to judge all the potential content I want to see on the content itself, so I have to rely on indirect factors like dislike to quickly dismiss a video.
- behnamoh 5y ago
  >> I tend to judge the content on the content It's possible to do it for image and maybe even music, but as with videos, you'd have to spend time watching segments to get a sense of quality. That's arguably time consuming.
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