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Eh, that's a bit overused and tends to fall into the "slipper slope" fallacy territory a lot of the time it's rolled out. I'm withholding judgement on this one

Eh, that's a bit overused and tends to fall into the "slipper slope" fallacy territory a lot of the time it's rolled out. I'm withholding judgement on this one as there seems to be some indication the account was using using sock puppets to make them more popular. If that's true (and it might not be) that would lower the temperature on this ban to a standard TOS violation of a well-known policy.

mdoms 5y ago
Ah there it is, the 'slippery slope fallacy' fallacy. Slippery slope arguments are not fundamentally fallacious. There's no such thing as "the slippery slope fallacy". There are slippery slope arguments, some of which are fallacious and many of which are not. Please, stop cargo culting logical fallacies.
imwillofficial 5y ago
Slippery Slope isn’t a fallacy. It’s literally how things progress from good to worse. Identifying early signs of Stalin’s rise to power would be called Slippery Slope these days. As for twitter, their focus removing on information that is damaging to people in power is concerning. These days private corps wield as much or more power than governments.
- pixelgeek 5y ago
  I don't think that there is any in Stalin's rise to power[0] that would fit the definition. The post you are responding to also refers specifically to the Slippery Slope Fallacy[1] which is a different beast than just calling something a 'Slippery Slope' [0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Consolidation_of_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Consolidation_of... [1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
  - sieabahlpark 5y ago
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  - imwillofficial 5y ago
    There were many early signs of Stalin’s future misdeeds. Signs if recognized in a climate like today, would be called a slippery slope fallacy. My point is this, don’t turn off critical thinking because something is a so called fallacy.
md2020 5y ago
> tends to fall into the "slipper slope" fallacy territory a lot of the time it's rolled out Yeah, and the "that's a 'slippery slope' fallacy" rebuttal is often addressing something that is an actual slippery slope a lot of the time it's rolled out. Pointing out a slippery slope by itself isn't proof that the thing in question isn't real or isn't bad. Slippery slopes are real, and are quite often bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy
- ineedasername 5y ago
  Fair points: there are instances where long term gradual changes tooks small steps each time to reach a point far from the initial step. In this particular case where there might have been (not sure it's been established definitively) a ToS violation then I don't think we're at that that point if there actually was such a violation.

mdoms 5y ago

Ah there it is, the 'slippery slope fallacy' fallacy. Slippery slope arguments are not fundamentally fallacious. There's no such thing as "the slippery slope fallacy". There are slippery slope arguments, some of which are fallacious and many of which are not. Please, stop cargo culting logical fallacies.

imwillofficial 5y ago

Slippery Slope isn’t a fallacy. It’s literally how things progress from good to worse. Identifying early signs of Stalin’s rise to power would be called Slippery Slope these days. As for twitter, their focus removing on information that is damaging to people in power is concerning. These days private corps wield as much or more power than governments.

pixelgeek 5y ago
I don't think that there is any in Stalin's rise to power[0] that would fit the definition. The post you are responding to also refers specifically to the Slippery Slope Fallacy[1] which is a different beast than just calling something a 'Slippery Slope' [0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Consolidation_of_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Consolidation_of... [1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
- sieabahlpark 5y ago
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- imwillofficial 5y ago
  There were many early signs of Stalin’s future misdeeds. Signs if recognized in a climate like today, would be called a slippery slope fallacy. My point is this, don’t turn off critical thinking because something is a so called fallacy.

md2020 5y ago

> tends to fall into the "slipper slope" fallacy territory a lot of the time it's rolled out Yeah, and the "that's a 'slippery slope' fallacy" rebuttal is often addressing something that is an actual slippery slope a lot of the time it's rolled out. Pointing out a slippery slope by itself isn't proof that the thing in question isn't real or isn't bad. Slippery slopes are real, and are quite often bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

ineedasername 5y ago
Fair points: there are instances where long term gradual changes tooks small steps each time to reach a point far from the initial step. In this particular case where there might have been (not sure it's been established definitively) a ToS violation then I don't think we're at that that point if there actually was such a violation.