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You don’t have to be concerned. Another commenter brought up that the death rate per 100k is in the range of 1.1 (vaccinated) to ~5 (unvaccinated). Car accident

by mwint 5y ago

You don’t have to be concerned. Another commenter brought up that the death rate per 100k is in the range of 1.1 (vaccinated) to ~5 (unvaccinated). Car accidents are >10/100k/yr.

nicoburns 5y ago
I don't think an average is very useful here. For example, that figure is going to be much higher amongst elderly people. And many people are in contact with people who are vulnerable for other reasons (e.g. I have a relative going through chemotherapy). Incidence of long covid is also much higher than that of death. Some people may not be able to afford time off work if they catch covid, etc, etc.
bertr4nd 5y ago
5/100k deaths among unvaccinated can’t possibly be right, can it? There have been 790k Covid deaths so far in the US out of a population of 330 million, which is over 200/100k.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  Rates will change as the weakest die off. We may already be though the worst of it.
- dd36 5y ago
  And that’s not including the recent studies of high death rates for those with severe covid within a year.
  - mwint 5y ago
    Link? My initial impression is that this would be confounded by people who have severe covid also tending to be old or otherwise sickly, unless they found a way to control for that.
    - dd36 5y ago
      https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/severe-covid-tied-high-risk-death-mostly-other-causes-within-year https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/severe-c...
- ccn0p 5y ago
  A big chunk of US deaths were elderly in nursing homes when officials made uninformed decisions to put infected individuals back into the homes (when we knew a lot less about the virus) and it ripped through. Very sad, but that's where we get a big portion of that 790k. Given that we've learned a lot, tactics and strategies have evolved, and therapeutics are getting better, death rate should continue to go down. That's why many places in the US feel somewhat back to normal.
mentat 5y ago
How can you look at rate and range of mutation and make blithe comments on how many will die based on original covid rates?
- mwint 5y ago
  It’s the best we have, and history shows that this stuff gets more infectious but less fatal.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    History shows that this stuff usually gets more infectious but less fatal, but there are examples of it working otherwise. The early 20th century "Spanish Flu" being one example where it got considerably more fatal (esp. for younger people).

by mwint 5y ago

You don’t have to be concerned. Another commenter brought up that the death rate per 100k is in the range of 1.1 (vaccinated) to ~5 (unvaccinated). Car accidents are >10/100k/yr.

nicoburns 5y ago

I don't think an average is very useful here. For example, that figure is going to be much higher amongst elderly people. And many people are in contact with people who are vulnerable for other reasons (e.g. I have a relative going through chemotherapy). Incidence of long covid is also much higher than that of death. Some people may not be able to afford time off work if they catch covid, etc, etc.

bertr4nd 5y ago

5/100k deaths among unvaccinated can’t possibly be right, can it? There have been 790k Covid deaths so far in the US out of a population of 330 million, which is over 200/100k.

throwawayboise 5y ago
Rates will change as the weakest die off. We may already be though the worst of it.
dd36 5y ago
And that’s not including the recent studies of high death rates for those with severe covid within a year.
- mwint 5y ago
  Link? My initial impression is that this would be confounded by people who have severe covid also tending to be old or otherwise sickly, unless they found a way to control for that.
  - dd36 5y ago
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/severe-covid-tied-high-risk-death-mostly-other-causes-within-year https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/severe-c...
ccn0p 5y ago
A big chunk of US deaths were elderly in nursing homes when officials made uninformed decisions to put infected individuals back into the homes (when we knew a lot less about the virus) and it ripped through. Very sad, but that's where we get a big portion of that 790k. Given that we've learned a lot, tactics and strategies have evolved, and therapeutics are getting better, death rate should continue to go down. That's why many places in the US feel somewhat back to normal.

mentat 5y ago

How can you look at rate and range of mutation and make blithe comments on how many will die based on original covid rates?

mwint 5y ago
It’s the best we have, and history shows that this stuff gets more infectious but less fatal.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  History shows that this stuff usually gets more infectious but less fatal, but there are examples of it working otherwise. The early 20th century "Spanish Flu" being one example where it got considerably more fatal (esp. for younger people).