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I’m fascinated by this thinking. Do you really want to roll the dice on an infection and long term consequences including permanent loss of smell (and taste)?

I’m fascinated by this thinking. Do you really want to roll the dice on an infection and long term consequences including permanent loss of smell (and taste)? If this virus killed exactly no one but it just commonly removed one of your senses…is that not motivation enough to avoid it? Additionally, I just got over a two week adenovirus infection and it absolutely sucked. Not the sickest I’ve been, but the most symptoms and the longest. Why would anyone want to be sick if they could avoid it? The risk from the third shot is essentially immaterial to a healthy adult. The risk of the viral infection is somewhere between a shitty couple of weeks to permanent life altering symptoms.

marcinzm 5y ago
Yeah, death is not the only consequence. My friend could barely walk for 6 months after covid and I don't think he's fully recovered even now (1+ years later). Healthy and in his 30s. My mother had a severe cough for months after covid. Neither was severe enough during the infection to be hospitalized.
gizmo 5y ago
Permanent loss of smell/taste is not a thing, and how would you even demonstrate it? The disease is merely 2 years old, after all. Disinformation like yours doesn't help anybody, and makes discourse about covid more contentious than it otherwise would be.
- drewcon 5y ago
  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/up-to-16-million-people-in-the-us-have-long-term-smell-loss-180979092/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/up-to-16-million-p...
- nope96 5y ago
  > Permanent loss of smell/taste is not a thing It absolutely is! Many common viruses can cause it, not just Covid.
swader999 5y ago
Yes. Natural immunity is far superior and early treatment with simple, safe drugs like ivermectin and fluvoxamine quashes any long covid concerns. I'm speaking from experience here.
lambdaba 5y ago
For anosmia I'd just take LSD or Psilocybin: https://twitter.com/hamiltonmorris/status/1356421777400938496?lang=en https://twitter.com/hamiltonmorris/status/135642177740093849... Of course, these are illegal, dangerous drugs that you can't get prescribed, so you know, just find a way.
CountDrewku 5y ago
>Do you really want to roll the dice on an infection and long term consequences including permanent loss of smell (and taste)?" Do I want to roll the dice on taking constant boosters from a vaccine that caused me nasty side effects? For a disease that I have a .0007% chance of dying from and most likely getting mild cold symptoms?(probably even less since I'm not obese or morbidly ill already). Give me a percentage on how many people have had "long-term" loss of smell and taste. >The risk from the third shot is essentially immaterial to a healthy adult. What age and what sex? This idea that there's no risk to healthy individuals taking the vaccine is pure bullshit. Besides it's typically the unhealthy that need vaccination for this disease. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8270733/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8270733/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8416687/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8416687/ I'm fascinated by this weird trend towards authoritarianism when someone else not getting vaccinated is zero threat to you. The only logical explanation for this is perhaps fear of hospital burden but right now there's still plenty of room https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization. However, if you believe this is an issue I would ask why the hospitals keep filling up when our high risk population almost 90% vaccinated.... https://data.cdc.gov/Vaccinations/COVID-19-Vaccination-and-Case-Trends-by-Age-Group-/gxj9-t96f https://data.cdc.gov/Vaccinations/COVID-19-Vaccination-and-C...
Flankk 5y ago
I was not vaccinated because I am concerned about the effects of the spike protein on the brain. An early study showed significant damage to the blood brain barrier.[1] A more recent study shows the vaccine actually suppresses the immune system in certain individuals.[2] Natural immunity is far more robust and is long lasting whereas the vaccine has proven to wane in effectiveness over the course of a few months.[3] Your side downplays the risk of mRNA technology when the long-term risks are in fact unknown. You also tend to ignore that there are more viable options than simply taking the vaccine or being permanently debilitated. Pfizer and Merck have an effective treatment right around the corner. [1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201029141941.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201029141941.h... [2] https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232396/immune-imprinting-causes-varied-patterns-protection/ https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232396/immune-imprinting-cau... [3] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v...

marcinzm 5y ago

Yeah, death is not the only consequence. My friend could barely walk for 6 months after covid and I don't think he's fully recovered even now (1+ years later). Healthy and in his 30s. My mother had a severe cough for months after covid. Neither was severe enough during the infection to be hospitalized.

gizmo 5y ago

Permanent loss of smell/taste is not a thing, and how would you even demonstrate it? The disease is merely 2 years old, after all. Disinformation like yours doesn't help anybody, and makes discourse about covid more contentious than it otherwise would be.

drewcon 5y ago
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/up-to-16-million-people-in-the-us-have-long-term-smell-loss-180979092/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/up-to-16-million-p...
nope96 5y ago
> Permanent loss of smell/taste is not a thing It absolutely is! Many common viruses can cause it, not just Covid.

swader999 5y ago

Yes. Natural immunity is far superior and early treatment with simple, safe drugs like ivermectin and fluvoxamine quashes any long covid concerns. I'm speaking from experience here.

lambdaba 5y ago

For anosmia I'd just take LSD or Psilocybin: https://twitter.com/hamiltonmorris/status/1356421777400938496?lang=en https://twitter.com/hamiltonmorris/status/135642177740093849... Of course, these are illegal, dangerous drugs that you can't get prescribed, so you know, just find a way.

CountDrewku 5y ago

>Do you really want to roll the dice on an infection and long term consequences including permanent loss of smell (and taste)?" Do I want to roll the dice on taking constant boosters from a vaccine that caused me nasty side effects? For a disease that I have a .0007% chance of dying from and most likely getting mild cold symptoms?(probably even less since I'm not obese or morbidly ill already). Give me a percentage on how many people have had "long-term" loss of smell and taste. >The risk from the third shot is essentially immaterial to a healthy adult. What age and what sex? This idea that there's no risk to healthy individuals taking the vaccine is pure bullshit. Besides it's typically the unhealthy that need vaccination for this disease. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8270733/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8270733/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8416687/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8416687/ I'm fascinated by this weird trend towards authoritarianism when someone else not getting vaccinated is zero threat to you. The only logical explanation for this is perhaps fear of hospital burden but right now there's still plenty of room https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization. However, if you believe this is an issue I would ask why the hospitals keep filling up when our high risk population almost 90% vaccinated.... https://data.cdc.gov/Vaccinations/COVID-19-Vaccination-and-Case-Trends-by-Age-Group-/gxj9-t96f https://data.cdc.gov/Vaccinations/COVID-19-Vaccination-and-C...

Flankk 5y ago

I was not vaccinated because I am concerned about the effects of the spike protein on the brain. An early study showed significant damage to the blood brain barrier.[1] A more recent study shows the vaccine actually suppresses the immune system in certain individuals.[2] Natural immunity is far more robust and is long lasting whereas the vaccine has proven to wane in effectiveness over the course of a few months.[3] Your side downplays the risk of mRNA technology when the long-term risks are in fact unknown. You also tend to ignore that there are more viable options than simply taking the vaccine or being permanently debilitated. Pfizer and Merck have an effective treatment right around the corner. [1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201029141941.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201029141941.h... [2] https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232396/immune-imprinting-causes-varied-patterns-protection/ https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232396/immune-imprinting-cau... [3] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v...