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If you want to seriously discuss you should put which data points your comparing so others can also compare. When I look at that sheet and look at the rates com
by stuartloxton 5y ago
If you want to seriously discuss you should put which data points your comparing so others can also compare. When I look at that sheet and look at the rates comparing unvaccinated vs fully faccinated the death rate is lower for every age group when vaccinated.
* Comparing week ending 24th September 2021
- fer 5y agoThey're comparing different/dates/vaccination rates, classic Simpson's paradox. No adjusted data shows otherwise.
- _Understated_ 5y agoI'm not. Taking the last available data point which is 24 Sep 21: Unvax 80+ - 28 deaths Double-vax 80+ - 243 deaths What does that mean? It lools like more die with a double-dose. Is that not correct?
- mminer237 5y agoYou are not. Slightly more vaccinated people died than unvaccinated. However, not from COVID-19. The elderly are more likely to be vaccinated and also more likely to die of heart disease or cancer. You'll note in Table 8 that 34k unvaccinated died of COVID, compared to 14k vaccinated. Also, 83% of people are vaccinated, meaning the unvaccinated would have had to have died at even greater rates, at over 900% the rate of vaccinated. However, to further account for the elderly being at greater risk of COVID, you'll further note that Table 8 has an "age-standardised mortality rate", showing that on an individual basis, choosing to remain unvaccinated made someone 3230% more likely to die of COVID.
- _Understated_ 5y agoOk, so that makes some sense to me. Thanks for explaining it.