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What about the former core team member who also raised similarly-vague alarm bells about Rust's governance, and Amazon's involvement? I'm somewhat invested in

by skohan 5y ago

What about the former core team member who also raised similarly-vague alarm bells about Rust's governance, and Amazon's involvement? I'm somewhat invested in Rust, and it's a bit worrying to see this from two places.

epage 5y ago
He is a current core team member, not former [0]. I'm not too worried about his claims. His claim was about the Foundation being shadow-controlled by Amazon (they employed the board chair who had more influence while they lacked an Executive Director). The foundation manages the assets (donations, legal marks, etc) and has no control of the actual language. For Amazon to take control, theyd have to get the board involved and then leverage the assets against the developers. Nothing like this has happened and there is now an Executive Director. When observing that incident, I noticed that those joining the bandwagon didn't seem to have direct knowledge of the situation. Those that did, stayed quiet or made general statements about the claims not being accurate regarding why there wasn't an Executive Director yet (interim or not). To me, this suggests something happened that, professionally, people feel should be kept confidential and I try to support that by not doing further speculation. [0] https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core
nojito 5y ago
Why? The language related work takes place elsewhere. The term “core team” is just a misnomer.
- skohan 5y ago
  I mean, I am pretty far from all of that and I'm not really sure how it works. It's just generally a bit worrying when you hear from a few independent sources: "don't trust (X), they're behaving badly"
  - epage 5y ago
    To clarify then, the two groups made accusations against different people: - A core team member made an accusation against Amazon - The mods had concerns with the lack of oversight of the core team

by skohan 5y ago

epage 5y ago

He is a current core team member, not former [0]. I'm not too worried about his claims. His claim was about the Foundation being shadow-controlled by Amazon (they employed the board chair who had more influence while they lacked an Executive Director). The foundation manages the assets (donations, legal marks, etc) and has no control of the actual language. For Amazon to take control, theyd have to get the board involved and then leverage the assets against the developers. Nothing like this has happened and there is now an Executive Director. When observing that incident, I noticed that those joining the bandwagon didn't seem to have direct knowledge of the situation. Those that did, stayed quiet or made general statements about the claims not being accurate regarding why there wasn't an Executive Director yet (interim or not). To me, this suggests something happened that, professionally, people feel should be kept confidential and I try to support that by not doing further speculation. [0] https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core

nojito 5y ago

Why? The language related work takes place elsewhere. The term “core team” is just a misnomer.

skohan 5y ago
I mean, I am pretty far from all of that and I'm not really sure how it works. It's just generally a bit worrying when you hear from a few independent sources: "don't trust (X), they're behaving badly"
- epage 5y ago
  To clarify then, the two groups made accusations against different people: - A core team member made an accusation against Amazon - The mods had concerns with the lack of oversight of the core team