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What does IQ have to do with content? Steven Hawking could enjoy lolcats and your garbage man might be an ardent reader of philosophy. Stereotyping based on I

by parfe 15y ago

What does IQ have to do with content? Steven Hawking could enjoy lolcats and your garbage man might be an ardent reader of philosophy. Stereotyping based on IQ or profession is fairly stupid. Smart people can like dumb things and dumb people can enjoy intellectual pursuits. If you want to pigeon hole people into categories go back to a high school cafeteria.

hackinthebochs 15y ago
Is it even possible to have a dumb person who enjoys truly intellectual pursuits? I'm not outright stating its impossible, but I'd like to see a plausible scenario.
- goebbels 15y ago
  You are assuming that your are not dumb and that any of your life pursuits have been the slightest bit intellectual. Consider this, how likely is it that the act of trying to make or prove a point on the internet is stupid and what about the act makes you an intellectual or smart person?
- bbq 15y ago
  You'll have to define 'dumb' and 'truly intellectual' first. One might define a 'dumb' person as one who is incapable of enjoying 'truly intellectual pursuits' (whatever that means). In this case, no it's not possible but it's also pretty meaningless.
georgieporgie 15y ago
The only stereotyping and pigeon-holing here is on your part.
- parfe 15y ago
  Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me? Anyway, dumb and smart people do not have disparate interests. I bet you probably feel like you're in the smart category and you think that means other smart people think like you, but things like football, NASCAR and /r/jokes attract a wide swath of humanity. If I score high on my IQ test you going to show me nothing but "smart" pursuits? Chess, Go, Astrophysics? Bio chemistry? How about sustainable farming? Or animal husbandry? How about kinesiology? That qualify as smart to you? Or does hanging out with the jocks mean you're stupid by association? You don't have to defend your statement to the death. You can just say "Geeze, I didn't think about it and IQ isn't really a good indicator for what a user may want to see as content."
  - georgieporgie 15y ago
    Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me? No. What I said: serve up content based upon IQ and personality. Your response, regarding garbage men, was classist. Further, you seem to have assumed that I am advocating some sort of segregation based upon intelligence. Or does hanging out with the jocks mean you're stupid by association? Please show where I have indicated any of the projections contained in that ranting paragraph. You don't have to defend your statement to the death. You can just say "Geeze, I didn't think about it and IQ isn't really a good indicator for what a user may want to see as content." Your maligning of my statements is offensive. Additionally, you have done nothing whatsoever to show that intelligence and personality quizzes won't lead to better personalized content. Instead, you have merely been highly judgmental and attacked me based upon your own (apparent) prejudices.
    - parfe 15y ago
      I am confused why you brought class into this discussion, but I mentioned garbage men because it's a stereotypical dumb job. Not much critical thinking involved in emptying trash bins into trucks. If you want to claim IQ isn't tied to being a garbage man I applaud you. You saw my point. >Further, you seem to have assumed that I am advocating some sort of segregation based upon intelligence. If you are showing dumb people a different set of content then smart people you have segregated them. I don't see how you are claiming otherwise. Perhaps you should expand on how putting them in two different areas of the same website is not segregation. On to a concrete example. What does intelligence matter when a story like NASA's Mars Rover Opportunity Begins Study of Martian Crater[1]? Can you please score that story on the IQ scale? 100 IQ? 90? 125? Should only those with science degrees be allowed to comment? Perhaps only those with Ph.D's? Will you segregate all religious discussion to people with low IQ and atheists kept away? After all, there is a negative correlation with IQ and religiosity. >Your maligning of my statements is offensive. Your assumption that dumb people only have dumb interests is offensive. >Additionally, you have done nothing whatsoever to show that intelligence and personality quizzes won't lead to better personalized content. I only claimed your assumption that IQ correlates with interests was invalid. Personality tests is closer to something I could agree with. >Instead, you have merely been highly judgmental and attacked me based upon your own (apparent) prejudices. I am not the one suggesting we put dullards in a virtual cellar because they aren't smart enough to care about a new HIV vaccine or space travel, which we put the smart people in the master suite but block ESPNs because smart people shouldn't be exposed to sports. You suggested that content be associated with IQ. but have not put forth any explanation towards what such a result might look like. 1 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer20110901.html http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer20110901.html

by parfe 15y ago

hackinthebochs 15y ago

Is it even possible to have a dumb person who enjoys truly intellectual pursuits? I'm not outright stating its impossible, but I'd like to see a plausible scenario.

goebbels 15y ago
You are assuming that your are not dumb and that any of your life pursuits have been the slightest bit intellectual. Consider this, how likely is it that the act of trying to make or prove a point on the internet is stupid and what about the act makes you an intellectual or smart person?
bbq 15y ago
You'll have to define 'dumb' and 'truly intellectual' first. One might define a 'dumb' person as one who is incapable of enjoying 'truly intellectual pursuits' (whatever that means). In this case, no it's not possible but it's also pretty meaningless.

georgieporgie 15y ago

The only stereotyping and pigeon-holing here is on your part.

parfe 15y ago
Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me? Anyway, dumb and smart people do not have disparate interests. I bet you probably feel like you're in the smart category and you think that means other smart people think like you, but things like football, NASCAR and /r/jokes attract a wide swath of humanity. If I score high on my IQ test you going to show me nothing but "smart" pursuits? Chess, Go, Astrophysics? Bio chemistry? How about sustainable farming? Or animal husbandry? How about kinesiology? That qualify as smart to you? Or does hanging out with the jocks mean you're stupid by association? You don't have to defend your statement to the death. You can just say "Geeze, I didn't think about it and IQ isn't really a good indicator for what a user may want to see as content."
- georgieporgie 15y ago
  Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me? No. What I said: serve up content based upon IQ and personality. Your response, regarding garbage men, was classist. Further, you seem to have assumed that I am advocating some sort of segregation based upon intelligence. Or does hanging out with the jocks mean you're stupid by association? Please show where I have indicated any of the projections contained in that ranting paragraph. You don't have to defend your statement to the death. You can just say "Geeze, I didn't think about it and IQ isn't really a good indicator for what a user may want to see as content." Your maligning of my statements is offensive. Additionally, you have done nothing whatsoever to show that intelligence and personality quizzes won't lead to better personalized content. Instead, you have merely been highly judgmental and attacked me based upon your own (apparent) prejudices.
  - parfe 15y ago
    I am confused why you brought class into this discussion, but I mentioned garbage men because it's a stereotypical dumb job. Not much critical thinking involved in emptying trash bins into trucks. If you want to claim IQ isn't tied to being a garbage man I applaud you. You saw my point. >Further, you seem to have assumed that I am advocating some sort of segregation based upon intelligence. If you are showing dumb people a different set of content then smart people you have segregated them. I don't see how you are claiming otherwise. Perhaps you should expand on how putting them in two different areas of the same website is not segregation. On to a concrete example. What does intelligence matter when a story like NASA's Mars Rover Opportunity Begins Study of Martian Crater[1]? Can you please score that story on the IQ scale? 100 IQ? 90? 125? Should only those with science degrees be allowed to comment? Perhaps only those with Ph.D's? Will you segregate all religious discussion to people with low IQ and atheists kept away? After all, there is a negative correlation with IQ and religiosity. >Your maligning of my statements is offensive. Your assumption that dumb people only have dumb interests is offensive. >Additionally, you have done nothing whatsoever to show that intelligence and personality quizzes won't lead to better personalized content. I only claimed your assumption that IQ correlates with interests was invalid. Personality tests is closer to something I could agree with. >Instead, you have merely been highly judgmental and attacked me based upon your own (apparent) prejudices. I am not the one suggesting we put dullards in a virtual cellar because they aren't smart enough to care about a new HIV vaccine or space travel, which we put the smart people in the master suite but block ESPNs because smart people shouldn't be exposed to sports. You suggested that content be associated with IQ. but have not put forth any explanation towards what such a result might look like. 1 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer20110901.html http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer20110901.html