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Which providers? My experience is that my first cgi-bin script were about a order of magnitude easier to deploy that anything other then say a traditional php/

Which providers? My experience is that my first cgi-bin script were about a order of magnitude easier to deploy that anything other then say a traditional php/mysql script. and i had the flexibility to use basically any programming language back then too. I did not have to learn git, figure out how the cloud router used worked, i just had to place a file in a directory. For crontab it was the same dump the script to a directory edit the crontab file and it worked and it was the same no matter who i bought the service from. Sure there were scalability issues, and the security was questionable but in terms of ease of use are we really moving forward?

pjmlp 5y ago
Since you gave a cgi-bin script as example, assuming you have an Azure Cloud account, you can easily do it via , provided it is written in JavaScript, PowerShell, TypeScript, or C# Script. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-functions/functions-create-function-app-portal https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-functions/funct... Here is video tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7vp3zAB9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7vp3zAB9U Or in the context of low code tools, Azure Logic Apps https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/logic-apps/logic-apps-overview https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/logic-apps/logic-apps...
- Stranger43 5y ago
  And this is the equivalent for cgi-bin "vi ~/public_html/cgi-bin/hello.sh" And the code itself did not contain 10 lines of vendor specific scaffolding to run either but were straigt onto the business logic. Where is the platform where i can take an completely standardized scriptfile use my preffered ftp/scp client and upload it into an runtime configured to run inside of the corporate firewall?
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    You are missing having IT set up a UNIX server instance, with Apache or NGINX on it, configure firewall, public IP DNS entry, and then having the rights to ftp/scp into it before being able to call vi into hello.sh. So if you want that approach then, IT would set an "static HTML web app" instance for "~/public_html" version, which you can then ssh into. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/app-service/configure-linux-open-ssh-session https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/app-service/configure... or have a VSCode like experience editing directly your site files, https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/36467.understanding-the-azure-app-service-editor.aspx https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/...
    - gkop 5y ago
      I feel like you must know this, but the convention back in the day was a UNIX server for an organization, that would handle essential tasks like email, that everyone could log in to and have access to common UNIX tools, and that would automatically serve "/home/$USER/public_html" as static HTML web apps under example.com/~$USER. So, IT sets the server up once and maintains it and provisions and deprovisions accounts, but everything else is self service. There's no need for IT to be involved when somebody wants to "launch a new web page". It was a pretty nice system for what it was.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Sure and I get from where you are coming, but those days are long gone, in fact by 2004 that wasn't a thing at Nokia any longer.
        Stranger43 5y ago
        But is the new way better for all usecases?
        pjmlp 5y ago
        From security point of view, yes.
        Stranger43 5y ago
        yes but if that's the only way it's approved there is a huge unfilled gap in the current market. Besides given the near constant issues we see around misconfigured s3 bucket i am not sure the average cloud function meets security standard anyway.

pjmlp 5y ago

Since you gave a cgi-bin script as example, assuming you have an Azure Cloud account, you can easily do it via , provided it is written in JavaScript, PowerShell, TypeScript, or C# Script. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-functions/functions-create-function-app-portal https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-functions/funct... Here is video tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7vp3zAB9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7vp3zAB9U Or in the context of low code tools, Azure Logic Apps https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/logic-apps/logic-apps-overview https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/logic-apps/logic-apps...

Stranger43 5y ago
And this is the equivalent for cgi-bin "vi ~/public_html/cgi-bin/hello.sh" And the code itself did not contain 10 lines of vendor specific scaffolding to run either but were straigt onto the business logic. Where is the platform where i can take an completely standardized scriptfile use my preffered ftp/scp client and upload it into an runtime configured to run inside of the corporate firewall?
- pjmlp 5y ago
  You are missing having IT set up a UNIX server instance, with Apache or NGINX on it, configure firewall, public IP DNS entry, and then having the rights to ftp/scp into it before being able to call vi into hello.sh. So if you want that approach then, IT would set an "static HTML web app" instance for "~/public_html" version, which you can then ssh into. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/app-service/configure-linux-open-ssh-session https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/app-service/configure... or have a VSCode like experience editing directly your site files, https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/36467.understanding-the-azure-app-service-editor.aspx https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/...
  - gkop 5y ago
    I feel like you must know this, but the convention back in the day was a UNIX server for an organization, that would handle essential tasks like email, that everyone could log in to and have access to common UNIX tools, and that would automatically serve "/home/$USER/public_html" as static HTML web apps under example.com/~$USER. So, IT sets the server up once and maintains it and provisions and deprovisions accounts, but everything else is self service. There's no need for IT to be involved when somebody wants to "launch a new web page". It was a pretty nice system for what it was.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Sure and I get from where you are coming, but those days are long gone, in fact by 2004 that wasn't a thing at Nokia any longer.
      - Stranger43 5y ago
        But is the new way better for all usecases?
        pjmlp 5y ago
        From security point of view, yes.
        Stranger43 5y ago
        yes but if that's the only way it's approved there is a huge unfilled gap in the current market. Besides given the near constant issues we see around misconfigured s3 bucket i am not sure the average cloud function meets security standard anyway.