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How do you contrast the denial of the 2020 election's results by the Republicans with the denial of the 2000 election's results by the Democrats? Both lobbed la

by 0xy 5y ago

How do you contrast the denial of the 2020 election's results by the Republicans with the denial of the 2000 election's results by the Democrats? Both lobbed lawsuits and continue to say it was rigged or unfair. For example, Hillary Clinton compared the 2000 Florida election recount to rigged elections in Nigeria. [1] The Democrats continue to believe 2000 was rigged. How about something more recent? Oh yeah, Hillary Clinton claims the 2016 election was "not on the level". Going much further, she calls the result "illegitimate", citing hacking (never proven) and voter suppression (no evidence). [2] [3] As recently as 4 years ago the Democrats were doing the exact same thing the Republicans are doing now. [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=8314204&page=1 https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=8314204&page=1 [2] https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-electi... [3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trum...

thatswrong0 5y ago
If you think the magnitude of the response by the Trump campaign to categorically undermine faith in our elections (think 60+ lawsuits, a literal insurrection in the US capitol) is at all equivalent to Democrats being miffed about losing Florida by 537 votes and pointing out Republican voter suppression (which ABSOLUTELY has supporting evidence if you consider that Trump won two swing-states prone to voter suppression by 3% [0][1]), then I don't even know what to tell you. [0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-republican-push-to-restrict-voting-could-affect-our-elections/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-republican-push... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States#Modern_examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_Unite...
- 0xy 5y ago
  Where's the proof the 2016 election was rigged, which Democrats have repeatedly claimed? You should have lawsuits won by DNC lawyers proving the illegitimacy of the election, right? Where's the proof? Extraordinary claims (like denying the results of elections) require extraordinary evidence, of which you haven't provided. Democrats' claims are on the same level as Republicans' 2020 conspiracy theories. It's even worse because they claim moral superiority on the issue of election rigging claims, when they did it 4 years earlier on a huge scale.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    No, they aren't even close to what Trump tried to do - overturn a result and hang on to power after a loss. This is wilful blindness.

by 0xy 5y ago

thatswrong0 5y ago

If you think the magnitude of the response by the Trump campaign to categorically undermine faith in our elections (think 60+ lawsuits, a literal insurrection in the US capitol) is at all equivalent to Democrats being miffed about losing Florida by 537 votes and pointing out Republican voter suppression (which ABSOLUTELY has supporting evidence if you consider that Trump won two swing-states prone to voter suppression by 3% [0][1]), then I don't even know what to tell you. [0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-republican-push-to-restrict-voting-could-affect-our-elections/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-republican-push... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States#Modern_examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_Unite...

0xy 5y ago
Where's the proof the 2016 election was rigged, which Democrats have repeatedly claimed? You should have lawsuits won by DNC lawyers proving the illegitimacy of the election, right? Where's the proof? Extraordinary claims (like denying the results of elections) require extraordinary evidence, of which you haven't provided. Democrats' claims are on the same level as Republicans' 2020 conspiracy theories. It's even worse because they claim moral superiority on the issue of election rigging claims, when they did it 4 years earlier on a huge scale.
- Nursie 5y ago
  No, they aren't even close to what Trump tried to do - overturn a result and hang on to power after a loss. This is wilful blindness.