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On a somewhat unrelated note: What consequences did the Rust mod team resignation lead to? The last thing I heard was the blog post: https://blog.rust-lang.org/

by crtc 5y ago

On a somewhat unrelated note: What consequences did the Rust mod team resignation lead to? The last thing I heard was the blog post: https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/11/25/in-response-to-the-moderation-team-resignation.html https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/11/25/in-respons... But I haven't seen any public discussions on the future of Rust governance, how to make the core team accountable, or other consequences since.

natded 5y ago
Good riddance, lmao.
- arijun 5y ago
  Why? From the outside I would have assumed that was a bad thing.
nojito 5y ago
The rust core team is/was never accountable. Which is fine because the language work is done elsewhere thankfully.
- skohan 5y ago
  What about the former core team member who also raised similarly-vague alarm bells about Rust's governance, and Amazon's involvement? I'm somewhat invested in Rust, and it's a bit worrying to see this from two places.
  - epage 5y ago
    He is a current core team member, not former [0]. I'm not too worried about his claims. His claim was about the Foundation being shadow-controlled by Amazon (they employed the board chair who had more influence while they lacked an Executive Director). The foundation manages the assets (donations, legal marks, etc) and has no control of the actual language. For Amazon to take control, theyd have to get the board involved and then leverage the assets against the developers. Nothing like this has happened and there is now an Executive Director. When observing that incident, I noticed that those joining the bandwagon didn't seem to have direct knowledge of the situation. Those that did, stayed quiet or made general statements about the claims not being accurate regarding why there wasn't an Executive Director yet (interim or not). To me, this suggests something happened that, professionally, people feel should be kept confidential and I try to support that by not doing further speculation. [0] https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core
  - nojito 5y ago
    Why? The language related work takes place elsewhere. The term “core team” is just a misnomer.
    - skohan 5y ago
      I mean, I am pretty far from all of that and I'm not really sure how it works. It's just generally a bit worrying when you hear from a few independent sources: "don't trust (X), they're behaving badly"
      - epage 5y ago
        To clarify then, the two groups made accusations against different people: - A core team member made an accusation against Amazon - The mods had concerns with the lack of oversight of the core team
epage 5y ago
From what I've heard, they are still working things through. These things take time and we just had a holiday in the US.

by crtc 5y ago

natded 5y ago

Good riddance, lmao.

arijun 5y ago
Why? From the outside I would have assumed that was a bad thing.

nojito 5y ago

The rust core team is/was never accountable. Which is fine because the language work is done elsewhere thankfully.

skohan 5y ago
What about the former core team member who also raised similarly-vague alarm bells about Rust's governance, and Amazon's involvement? I'm somewhat invested in Rust, and it's a bit worrying to see this from two places.
- epage 5y ago
  He is a current core team member, not former [0]. I'm not too worried about his claims. His claim was about the Foundation being shadow-controlled by Amazon (they employed the board chair who had more influence while they lacked an Executive Director). The foundation manages the assets (donations, legal marks, etc) and has no control of the actual language. For Amazon to take control, theyd have to get the board involved and then leverage the assets against the developers. Nothing like this has happened and there is now an Executive Director. When observing that incident, I noticed that those joining the bandwagon didn't seem to have direct knowledge of the situation. Those that did, stayed quiet or made general statements about the claims not being accurate regarding why there wasn't an Executive Director yet (interim or not). To me, this suggests something happened that, professionally, people feel should be kept confidential and I try to support that by not doing further speculation. [0] https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core
- nojito 5y ago
  Why? The language related work takes place elsewhere. The term “core team” is just a misnomer.
  - skohan 5y ago
    I mean, I am pretty far from all of that and I'm not really sure how it works. It's just generally a bit worrying when you hear from a few independent sources: "don't trust (X), they're behaving badly"
    - epage 5y ago
      To clarify then, the two groups made accusations against different people: - A core team member made an accusation against Amazon - The mods had concerns with the lack of oversight of the core team

epage 5y ago

From what I've heard, they are still working things through. These things take time and we just had a holiday in the US.