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Awesome stuff to look forward to. I wonder how long it will take GCP and AWS. Wish there was an easier way to provision dedicated hosting providers like Hetzner

Awesome stuff to look forward to. I wonder how long it will take GCP and AWS. Wish there was an easier way to provision dedicated hosting providers like Hetzner and OVH and create a federated Kubernetes environment.

ecliptik 5y ago
I was wondering that too for EKS and saw on the EKS Release Calendar [1] that 1.22 isn’t even targeted until March 2022. So I’m assuming 1.23 isn’t available for EKS until at least the summer. EKS releases were starting to almost catch up with upstream, but I wonder if the version churn and support may have been too much for AWS customers to keep up with and they slowed it down some. 1. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/eks/latest/userguide/kubernetes-versions.html#kubernetes-release-calendar https://docs.aws.amazon.com/eks/latest/userguide/kubernetes-...
- foolfoolz 5y ago
  version churn is a real issue on EKS. my team had to dedicate someone almost full time to EKS upgrades due to them constantly EOLing. with small clusters sure it may be easy to upgrade, but with multiple large clusters it’s a lot of very dangerous ops this felt like a big step back. on ec2 you do some server management here and there. with eks we needed a nearly full time dev ops. you would think severless would reduce the need for dev ops
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  - yuppie_scum 5y ago
    As long as you can rapidly update your dependency stack with Argo or Helmfile and you have good TF or CF for the cluster upgrade, EKS upgrades are a breeze I’ve found! The biggest time sink is rolling nodes which I think managed ode groups can do automatically if you have those going.
Lucasoato 5y ago
Yeah, that would be a killer product. Kubernetes on bare metals machines, for a reasonable price.
- lrx 5y ago
  I think that would be packet.net but they're acquired and who knows how much investment they put in the product now.
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- chad_c 5y ago
  Isn’t that what https://metal.equinix.com/ https://metal.equinix.com/ sells?
  - unmole 5y ago
    Reading that page, I have no fucking idea what the product actually is.
    - Operyl 5y ago
      Helps us kick ass with a guitar I guess? Edit: In all seriousness, it's basically Packet (was bought up by this company).
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    I really don't want it to be limited to a single hosting provider, really just any dedicated hosting provider that allows you to provide a distro image.
ericflo 5y ago
I've had good luck with microk8s on similar hosting providers.
smartbit 5y ago
Have you tried KubeOne? Supports both OVH & Hetzer including their CSI drivers. And it seems to support some type of federation: > Generally, the KKP architecture supports large-scale multi-cloud deployment of Kubernetes clusters where the master cluster, the seed clusters, and the customer clusters can all be deployed in a different region. https://www.kubermatic.com/blog/getting-started-with-kubermatic-kubernetes-platform-part-3/ https://www.kubermatic.com/blog/getting-started-with-kuberma...
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  I have not, but when I looked in the past these products seem to focus on OVH and Hetzner cloud products which are different than the bare metal offerings.

ecliptik 5y ago

I was wondering that too for EKS and saw on the EKS Release Calendar [1] that 1.22 isn’t even targeted until March 2022. So I’m assuming 1.23 isn’t available for EKS until at least the summer. EKS releases were starting to almost catch up with upstream, but I wonder if the version churn and support may have been too much for AWS customers to keep up with and they slowed it down some. 1. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/eks/latest/userguide/kubernetes-versions.html#kubernetes-release-calendar https://docs.aws.amazon.com/eks/latest/userguide/kubernetes-...

foolfoolz 5y ago
version churn is a real issue on EKS. my team had to dedicate someone almost full time to EKS upgrades due to them constantly EOLing. with small clusters sure it may be easy to upgrade, but with multiple large clusters it’s a lot of very dangerous ops this felt like a big step back. on ec2 you do some server management here and there. with eks we needed a nearly full time dev ops. you would think severless would reduce the need for dev ops
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- yuppie_scum 5y ago
  As long as you can rapidly update your dependency stack with Argo or Helmfile and you have good TF or CF for the cluster upgrade, EKS upgrades are a breeze I’ve found! The biggest time sink is rolling nodes which I think managed ode groups can do automatically if you have those going.

Lucasoato 5y ago

Yeah, that would be a killer product. Kubernetes on bare metals machines, for a reasonable price.

lrx 5y ago
I think that would be packet.net but they're acquired and who knows how much investment they put in the product now.
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chad_c 5y ago
Isn’t that what https://metal.equinix.com/ https://metal.equinix.com/ sells?
- unmole 5y ago
  Reading that page, I have no fucking idea what the product actually is.
  - Operyl 5y ago
    Helps us kick ass with a guitar I guess? Edit: In all seriousness, it's basically Packet (was bought up by this company).
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  I really don't want it to be limited to a single hosting provider, really just any dedicated hosting provider that allows you to provide a distro image.

ericflo 5y ago

I've had good luck with microk8s on similar hosting providers.

smartbit 5y ago

Have you tried KubeOne? Supports both OVH & Hetzer including their CSI drivers. And it seems to support some type of federation: > Generally, the KKP architecture supports large-scale multi-cloud deployment of Kubernetes clusters where the master cluster, the seed clusters, and the customer clusters can all be deployed in a different region. https://www.kubermatic.com/blog/getting-started-with-kubermatic-kubernetes-platform-part-3/ https://www.kubermatic.com/blog/getting-started-with-kuberma...

encryptluks2 5y ago
I have not, but when I looked in the past these products seem to focus on OVH and Hetzner cloud products which are different than the bare metal offerings.