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I imagine at some point the younglings will just leave the country.

by 6510 5y ago

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dredmorbius 5y ago
I'm wondering if it's going to be the young, first, or the talented, who can choose to live and work elsewhere. Either working remotely, or finding a new low-cost centre with suitable infrastructure. Where that might be I'm not so certain, as numerous candidate are either expensive or lack sufficient infrastructure. California of the 1950s--1970s was reasonably inexpensive and low-drama relative to much of the rest of the US, while at the same time not being remote or encumbered with unattractive weather (too hot, too cold, too humid). Northern California was largely more affordable than Southern up until the early 1990s IIRC, when the draw-down from the Cold War crashed Los Angeles and San Diego real estate values. The San Francisco Bay Are rebuilt following the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, and saw the first dot-com boom in the late 1990s, with property values beginning their stratospheric climb. Financialisation of real estate has contributed to price increases throughout the US, whilst supply has been constrained through numerous factors, benefitting both existing homeowners and financial institutions holding mortgage-backed securities. Taxing real estate or securities based on it seems to be what's required. Unfortunately, that knowledge is 200 years old, but seems impossible to implement politically. A region which could offer today in comparison to other current location choices the benefits that Northern California had to offer ~1950--1990 or so* just might be able to draw off talent. Where that would be ... I don't know: Vancouver, Berlin, London, Dublin, Sydney, Melbourne, Madrid, ...? None of those jump out at me. Many are pleasant and modern, but most or all are expensive.
- 6510 5y ago
  Sounds like a great business plan.
  - dredmorbius 5y ago
    Less a business plan than a coherent economic policy.
    - 6510 5y ago
      I mean something like starting a colony on mars with the sensible exception that it would be on earth. Even Antarctica would be a viable candidate location but I imagine there must be some sweet spot with decent cable, water, electricity, healthcare, food, climate, transportation and land prices or at least have some of those with an option to build the rest. Someone is going to have to organize it?

I imagine at some point the younglings will just leave the country.

by 6510 5y ago

I imagine at some point the younglings will just leave the country.

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dredmorbius 5y ago

I'm wondering if it's going to be the young, first, or the talented, who can choose to live and work elsewhere. Either working remotely, or finding a new low-cost centre with suitable infrastructure. Where that might be I'm not so certain, as numerous candidate are either expensive or lack sufficient infrastructure. California of the 1950s--1970s was reasonably inexpensive and low-drama relative to much of the rest of the US, while at the same time not being remote or encumbered with unattractive weather (too hot, too cold, too humid). Northern California was largely more affordable than Southern up until the early 1990s IIRC, when the draw-down from the Cold War crashed Los Angeles and San Diego real estate values. The San Francisco Bay Are rebuilt following the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, and saw the first dot-com boom in the late 1990s, with property values beginning their stratospheric climb. Financialisation of real estate has contributed to price increases throughout the US, whilst supply has been constrained through numerous factors, benefitting both existing homeowners and financial institutions holding mortgage-backed securities. Taxing real estate or securities based on it seems to be what's required. Unfortunately, that knowledge is 200 years old, but seems impossible to implement politically. A region which could offer today in comparison to other current location choices the benefits that Northern California had to offer ~1950--1990 or so* just might be able to draw off talent. Where that would be ... I don't know: Vancouver, Berlin, London, Dublin, Sydney, Melbourne, Madrid, ...? None of those jump out at me. Many are pleasant and modern, but most or all are expensive.

6510 5y ago
Sounds like a great business plan.
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  Less a business plan than a coherent economic policy.
  - 6510 5y ago
    I mean something like starting a colony on mars with the sensible exception that it would be on earth. Even Antarctica would be a viable candidate location but I imagine there must be some sweet spot with decent cable, water, electricity, healthcare, food, climate, transportation and land prices or at least have some of those with an option to build the rest. Someone is going to have to organize it?