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> Interestingly enough, the absence of ChatOps isn’t a deal-breaker for developers—a mere 8-12% said not having one of these tools would make a company unappeal

> Interestingly enough, the absence of ChatOps isn’t a deal-breaker for developers—a mere 8-12% said not having one of these tools would make a company unappealing. Maybe if you're working in an office. But working from home, I'd find my job brutal without a tool like Slack/Teams. Long response times from emails and it'd be very dry as the 'IM' style chat allows for a bit of banter like GIFs/'private' chats etc.

detaro 5y ago
"ChatOps" refers to using chat bots for development/deployment steps, not to "having company chat": https://www.pagerduty.com/blog/what-is-chatops/ https://www.pagerduty.com/blog/what-is-chatops/ (random promo article picked from Google, but it gets the point across). Although I guess it's an interesting question how many of the 8-12% quoted thought it meant that.
jeremy_wiebe 5y ago
I haven't heard the term ChatOps before, but at first glance, I don't think the article is stating the complete lack of Slack/Teams. Rather I think they're referring specifically to the use of chat platforms to manage operations (such as deploys, test runs, etc).
jrumbut 5y ago
It's funny I am at a place where there is no chat and my productivity has never been higher and I've never been futher away from burning out. I go entire days without an unscheduled mental context switch. We're slowly going back to the office but have been remote almost 2 years now. It's only a few times a year I get or send an email that can't wait 5 minutes and in those rare circumstances a phone call usually does it. I will admit I do miss the banter and social cohesion chat provided but it's been a revelation how much of a time and energy sink chats were for me.
MattGaiser 5y ago
I would be curious if it was asked about each individually or chat tools as a group. I am concerned that it may be the former. Neither lacking Teams or Slack is a deal breaker for me, but it is a big one if both are missing.
dpeck 5y ago
8-12% surveyed said that it was a dealbreaker not to be able to use slack/similar to drive automation and get event notifications?!? We can have the same jobs and live in such different worlds.

detaro 5y ago

"ChatOps" refers to using chat bots for development/deployment steps, not to "having company chat": https://www.pagerduty.com/blog/what-is-chatops/ https://www.pagerduty.com/blog/what-is-chatops/ (random promo article picked from Google, but it gets the point across). Although I guess it's an interesting question how many of the 8-12% quoted thought it meant that.

jeremy_wiebe 5y ago

I haven't heard the term ChatOps before, but at first glance, I don't think the article is stating the complete lack of Slack/Teams. Rather I think they're referring specifically to the use of chat platforms to manage operations (such as deploys, test runs, etc).

jrumbut 5y ago

It's funny I am at a place where there is no chat and my productivity has never been higher and I've never been futher away from burning out. I go entire days without an unscheduled mental context switch. We're slowly going back to the office but have been remote almost 2 years now. It's only a few times a year I get or send an email that can't wait 5 minutes and in those rare circumstances a phone call usually does it. I will admit I do miss the banter and social cohesion chat provided but it's been a revelation how much of a time and energy sink chats were for me.

MattGaiser 5y ago

I would be curious if it was asked about each individually or chat tools as a group. I am concerned that it may be the former. Neither lacking Teams or Slack is a deal breaker for me, but it is a big one if both are missing.

dpeck 5y ago

8-12% surveyed said that it was a dealbreaker not to be able to use slack/similar to drive automation and get event notifications?!? We can have the same jobs and live in such different worlds.