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Well that’s the one decent remaining bit of windows fucked up.

by hvgk 5y ago

stnmtn 5y ago
What about this updates fucks it up?
- hvgk 5y ago
  Gigantic menu bar for the sake of one icon. Aka “design language” Aka “bullshit”
  - Lendal 5y ago
    This was my observation as well. I haven't used Notepad in so long, I had to open it for comparison. Yes, they've doubled the amount of wasted space, changing one menu item from text to a gear icon. It's also possible that this is a joke. Nobody that reads dev blogs uses Notepad as part of their mission critical process.
  - lucb1e 5y ago
    Assuming you're a Windows or WINE user that uses notepad somewhat regularly, I challenge you to use the new notepad for a month and then try switching back. I'm very curious whether you'll miss more features or be more happy about those five pixels. I do agree, it's completely unnecessary, but I'm still surprised the "bullshit" is limited to those few pixels of menu bar and some actual problems were fixed instead. (This feeling and this thread really go to show what people expect from the brand.)
    - hvgk 5y ago
      I actually use notepad2 when I use windows. Why would I use notepad? Would these changes improve anything? Not really. My key problem is this is epic bike shedding.
      - lucb1e 5y ago
        Then why even the vehement response
        hvgk 5y ago
        Because I dumped the platform because of the real issues while they were painting it a different colour and rearranging the deck chairs. It deserves critical attitudes directed at it.
marginalia_nu 5y ago
It's 2028. You're done writing a text file and go to save. It's not there. Where's the save button? Oh, there has been another automatic update. You wonder what you have to do this time. You press Ctrl+S. The screen locks. "Microsoft Account is signed out" Sigh. You enter your password. "Please verify it's you by saying 'Microsoft Edge is Great!'" Sigh. "Microsoft Edge is Great!" A Sarcasm Error Has Occurred. Please Say It With Conviction! "MiCrOSoFt EdGe iS gReAt!" An acceptable performance! Please rate Notepad in the Microsoft Store to continue! "1 star" Why do you hate excellent products? Don't you want a fresh and modern editor? Hypothesis: Did you mean 5 stars? Please don't press the second yes option if you don't not mean this isn't your choice: No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes. Uuh... Third Yes. Great! Your rating has been corrected to 5 stars! Please verify it's you by saying 'Microsoft Edge is The Greatest And I will Name My Children Microsoft And Edge!' "MiCrOSoFt EdGe iS gReAtEst And I Will NaMe my ChIlDrEn MiCroSofT AnD EdgE!" Processing accounts and personal information. Security Alert! Inferior non-microsoft software detected on computer! Do you wish to replace them all with modern microsoft products? [ Yes ] [ Options ] Options * [x] Don't Replace The Other Software * [_] Reverse The Above Option * [x] Really Keep Other Software * [x] I'm a cheating bastard * [x] I'm aware Hitler didn't use Microsoft Edge either * Security Options * * [x] Remove browsers not developed by Microsoft
- hvgk 5y ago
  It sounds like you’ve tried to save a file in Microsoft word recently!
- wiseleo 5y ago
  This must be inspired by “we see you have Acrobat DC installed so we upgraded your experience to open PDFs in Microsoft Edge”. This thing is responsible for a lot of helpdesk tickets.
seritools 5y ago
Yep. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478878
- hvgk 5y ago
  Well shit that’s even more horrible than I had dreamed about.
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Well that’s the one decent remaining bit of windows fucked up.

by hvgk 5y ago

Well that’s the one decent remaining bit of windows fucked up.

stnmtn 5y ago

What about this updates fucks it up?

hvgk 5y ago
Gigantic menu bar for the sake of one icon. Aka “design language” Aka “bullshit”
- Lendal 5y ago
  This was my observation as well. I haven't used Notepad in so long, I had to open it for comparison. Yes, they've doubled the amount of wasted space, changing one menu item from text to a gear icon. It's also possible that this is a joke. Nobody that reads dev blogs uses Notepad as part of their mission critical process.
- lucb1e 5y ago
  Assuming you're a Windows or WINE user that uses notepad somewhat regularly, I challenge you to use the new notepad for a month and then try switching back. I'm very curious whether you'll miss more features or be more happy about those five pixels. I do agree, it's completely unnecessary, but I'm still surprised the "bullshit" is limited to those few pixels of menu bar and some actual problems were fixed instead. (This feeling and this thread really go to show what people expect from the brand.)
  - hvgk 5y ago
    I actually use notepad2 when I use windows. Why would I use notepad? Would these changes improve anything? Not really. My key problem is this is epic bike shedding.
    - lucb1e 5y ago
      Then why even the vehement response
      - hvgk 5y ago
        Because I dumped the platform because of the real issues while they were painting it a different colour and rearranging the deck chairs. It deserves critical attitudes directed at it.

marginalia_nu 5y ago

It's 2028. You're done writing a text file and go to save. It's not there. Where's the save button? Oh, there has been another automatic update. You wonder what you have to do this time. You press Ctrl+S. The screen locks. "Microsoft Account is signed out" Sigh. You enter your password. "Please verify it's you by saying 'Microsoft Edge is Great!'" Sigh. "Microsoft Edge is Great!" A Sarcasm Error Has Occurred. Please Say It With Conviction! "MiCrOSoFt EdGe iS gReAt!" An acceptable performance! Please rate Notepad in the Microsoft Store to continue! "1 star" Why do you hate excellent products? Don't you want a fresh and modern editor? Hypothesis: Did you mean 5 stars? Please don't press the second yes option if you don't not mean this isn't your choice: No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes. Uuh... Third Yes. Great! Your rating has been corrected to 5 stars! Please verify it's you by saying 'Microsoft Edge is The Greatest And I will Name My Children Microsoft And Edge!' "MiCrOSoFt EdGe iS gReAtEst And I Will NaMe my ChIlDrEn MiCroSofT AnD EdgE!" Processing accounts and personal information. Security Alert! Inferior non-microsoft software detected on computer! Do you wish to replace them all with modern microsoft products? [ Yes ] [ Options ] Options * [x] Don't Replace The Other Software * [_] Reverse The Above Option * [x] Really Keep Other Software * [x] I'm a cheating bastard * [x] I'm aware Hitler didn't use Microsoft Edge either * Security Options * * [x] Remove browsers not developed by Microsoft

hvgk 5y ago
It sounds like you’ve tried to save a file in Microsoft word recently!
wiseleo 5y ago
This must be inspired by “we see you have Acrobat DC installed so we upgraded your experience to open PDFs in Microsoft Edge”. This thing is responsible for a lot of helpdesk tickets.

seritools 5y ago

Yep. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478878

hvgk 5y ago
Well shit that’s even more horrible than I had dreamed about.

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