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Somewhat in this same vein, it's a shame that clients and networks like Hotline/Curaco/BigRedH went under. I think it would be very popular today. People are st

by 0des 5y ago

Somewhat in this same vein, it's a shame that clients and networks like Hotline/Curaco/BigRedH went under. I think it would be very popular today. People are still on KDX and preterhuman still has a tracker, but the experience these days is not the same. I still wonder sometimes what hinks is up to these days.

gregsadetsky 5y ago
I miss Hotline [0] and spent many years running a small community server & making friends on other servers (some which I found by running nmap on port 5500...!) Thanks for the reminder, and I'm always happy to give it / its developer Adam Hinkley a shout out. Speaking of which, as someone was asking here in 2013 [1], whatever happened to him? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5690832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5690832
- 0des 5y ago
  as far as I can remember, he got in some shit for encrypting source code [0] and then absconding, then 9/11 happened and not sure after that. The most recent things I can find are defunct [1], but there is a LinkedIn listing (that I cant see). Maybe someone with a LinkedIn account can post their findings. [2] The comments in the slashdot thread and the court papers [3] sure are interesting. [0] - https://www.salon.com/1999/02/25/feature_224/ https://www.salon.com/1999/02/25/feature_224/ [1] - https://slashdot.org/story/01/04/09/1639212/adam-hinkleys-ip-hindsights https://slashdot.org/story/01/04/09/1639212/adam-hinkleys-ip... [2] - nope, wrong guy [3] - http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSC/2001/91.html http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSC/... p.s. Do you think one of us should make another Ask HN post and see if anybody has contact with him? The site is kind of big these days, and I doubt anybody would vote it up unless they recognized the name, but it could be worth a shot. I don't even know what I'd ask or say if we did find him though. Probably thanks for the memories, and wanting to know what he's up to these days.
  - jamesfmilne 5y ago
    That LinkedIn profile is almost certainly not the same guy.
    - 0des 5y ago
      I don't have LinkedIn, so I just figured I'd throw it out there as it was the #1 search result. He'd be like what, 40 years old these days?
  - gregsadetsky 5y ago
    I doubt that LinkedIn profile is the right Adam Hinkley. Apart from living/working in Australia, none of the biographical details really match. And yeah, I think that it's worth doing another Ask, in case something comes up. Just posted it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478266
    - 0des 5y ago
      It didn't work :/ There's always next time. Until then, my friend!
      - gregsadetsky 5y ago
        Cheers! Maybe at a later date…
- spatulon 5y ago
  After Hotline there was Haxial KDX, which was similar and thought to be written by Hinkley.
- scroot 5y ago
  Hotline was awesome. In the mid to late 90s, it might have been my primary online activity besides AIM. I used to get all kinds of electronic music samples from various servers. It was a great way to discover random music as well.
sneak 5y ago
This makes me miss my earliest internet friends from the EFNet mac underground (#macfiles, #macwarez, #macdev, et c). The internet was a different place then. (If you were a regular in any of those places, write me - my email's in my profile.) There were also a number of really cool FirstClass BBSes around in that era, though cracking and configuring FirstClass was a bit of an involved process at the time. (IIRC the Hotline server was free?)
- gregsadetsky 5y ago
  Ah yes FirstClass!! Spent sooooooo much time using it as my local Macintosh User Group was mostly based around it. I even remember meeting with one of their reps (at a conference..? it's been too long ago) and bringing a list of grievances / bugs that we found, mostly on the server side. And yes, FirstClass had a convoluted-ish serial number / activation? process as far as I remember, while Hotline server was either free or could easily be found around.

by 0des 5y ago

gregsadetsky 5y ago

I miss Hotline [0] and spent many years running a small community server & making friends on other servers (some which I found by running nmap on port 5500...!) Thanks for the reminder, and I'm always happy to give it / its developer Adam Hinkley a shout out. Speaking of which, as someone was asking here in 2013 [1], whatever happened to him? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5690832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5690832

0des 5y ago
as far as I can remember, he got in some shit for encrypting source code [0] and then absconding, then 9/11 happened and not sure after that. The most recent things I can find are defunct [1], but there is a LinkedIn listing (that I cant see). Maybe someone with a LinkedIn account can post their findings. [2] The comments in the slashdot thread and the court papers [3] sure are interesting. [0] - https://www.salon.com/1999/02/25/feature_224/ https://www.salon.com/1999/02/25/feature_224/ [1] - https://slashdot.org/story/01/04/09/1639212/adam-hinkleys-ip-hindsights https://slashdot.org/story/01/04/09/1639212/adam-hinkleys-ip... [2] - nope, wrong guy [3] - http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSC/2001/91.html http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSC/... p.s. Do you think one of us should make another Ask HN post and see if anybody has contact with him? The site is kind of big these days, and I doubt anybody would vote it up unless they recognized the name, but it could be worth a shot. I don't even know what I'd ask or say if we did find him though. Probably thanks for the memories, and wanting to know what he's up to these days.
- jamesfmilne 5y ago
  That LinkedIn profile is almost certainly not the same guy.
  - 0des 5y ago
    I don't have LinkedIn, so I just figured I'd throw it out there as it was the #1 search result. He'd be like what, 40 years old these days?
- gregsadetsky 5y ago
  I doubt that LinkedIn profile is the right Adam Hinkley. Apart from living/working in Australia, none of the biographical details really match. And yeah, I think that it's worth doing another Ask, in case something comes up. Just posted it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29478266
  - 0des 5y ago
    It didn't work :/ There's always next time. Until then, my friend!
    - gregsadetsky 5y ago
      Cheers! Maybe at a later date…
spatulon 5y ago
After Hotline there was Haxial KDX, which was similar and thought to be written by Hinkley.
scroot 5y ago
Hotline was awesome. In the mid to late 90s, it might have been my primary online activity besides AIM. I used to get all kinds of electronic music samples from various servers. It was a great way to discover random music as well.

sneak 5y ago

This makes me miss my earliest internet friends from the EFNet mac underground (#macfiles, #macwarez, #macdev, et c). The internet was a different place then. (If you were a regular in any of those places, write me - my email's in my profile.) There were also a number of really cool FirstClass BBSes around in that era, though cracking and configuring FirstClass was a bit of an involved process at the time. (IIRC the Hotline server was free?)

gregsadetsky 5y ago
Ah yes FirstClass!! Spent sooooooo much time using it as my local Macintosh User Group was mostly based around it. I even remember meeting with one of their reps (at a conference..? it's been too long ago) and bringing a list of grievances / bugs that we found, mostly on the server side. And yes, FirstClass had a convoluted-ish serial number / activation? process as far as I remember, while Hotline server was either free or could easily be found around.