SOME of the dive bombing at Midway was effective, a lot of it was not. This was the first combat mission for many US pilots and so their dives were slow and sha

SOME of the dive bombing at Midway was effective, a lot of it was not. This was the first combat mission for many US pilots and so their dives were slow and shallow. Yes, it was bungled. The odds were hopeless at a certain point - which is what makes this operation so interesting to me. When did the odds become hopeless? October 1941 or December 7th or 10th or ... 1941? For poor navigation - it's not all on the pilots, this was hard throughout the war for all sides, but specifically I mean that different groups went different places. For Midway, I highly recommend reading Shattered Sword or watching any number of the presentations the authors have given.