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1 - Can you give a specific example of a right that Arab Israeli citizens are missing but in your opinion are entitled to? 2 - Israel is a Jewish state just li

1 - Can you give a specific example of a right that Arab Israeli citizens are missing but in your opinion are entitled to? 2 - Israel is a Jewish state just like Italy is a Christian state, and Iraq is a Muslim state. So what, given all citizens have equal rights? wrt apartheid claims, Israel is at war with both Gaza and West Bank. West Bank is partially occupied because there is no will on either side to come up with a permanent peace agreement. Gaza is in perpetual armed conflict with Israel as per Hamas(ruling party of Gaza) founding chapter, there is no peace between the two, only temporarily cease fires. Is blockade a valuable war tactic?

sofixa 5y ago
I'm sorry, but Italy is not a Christian state. The majority of the population is Christian, but it's not like Israel or Iran where the religion is enshrined in the basic law of the country, and the government and state's legitimacy are based in that religion. Specifically, in countries like this, non-believers don't have the same rights as believers, either explicitly or implicitly (like marriage rights for mixed couples in Israel, or that Arabs get expelled for their lands to be resettled). If I'm not mistaken, the only country considered developed which has such a close and explicit relationship between the state and a religion is Israel. All the rest are developing Muslim countries. > wrt apartheid claims, Israel is at war with both Gaza and West Bank. Not really, for Israel to be at war with them they'd have to recognise their independence, which they don't :) And there can't be a permanent peace agreement while Israel claims things Palestinians can't give them ( like the entirety of Jerusalem). A blockade is a valuable war tactic, dubious morally ( civilians suffer indiscriminately), but as mentioned before Israel is not at war with Gaza, and an open air prison with atrocious conditions, more resembling a concentration camp than a counter under blockade as previously known.
- AzzieElbab 5y ago
  can you please answer the questions I asked? Your assumptions are indefensibly wrong
  - sofixa 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_and_political_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_... Arab Israeli citizens are second class citizens in many regards, and Palestinians are even below that. And I'm sorry, are you insisting that there's no difference between an explicitly religious country like Israel or Iran, and a country that happens to have a majority of the population from a single religion?

sofixa 5y ago

I'm sorry, but Italy is not a Christian state. The majority of the population is Christian, but it's not like Israel or Iran where the religion is enshrined in the basic law of the country, and the government and state's legitimacy are based in that religion. Specifically, in countries like this, non-believers don't have the same rights as believers, either explicitly or implicitly (like marriage rights for mixed couples in Israel, or that Arabs get expelled for their lands to be resettled). If I'm not mistaken, the only country considered developed which has such a close and explicit relationship between the state and a religion is Israel. All the rest are developing Muslim countries. > wrt apartheid claims, Israel is at war with both Gaza and West Bank. Not really, for Israel to be at war with them they'd have to recognise their independence, which they don't :) And there can't be a permanent peace agreement while Israel claims things Palestinians can't give them ( like the entirety of Jerusalem). A blockade is a valuable war tactic, dubious morally ( civilians suffer indiscriminately), but as mentioned before Israel is not at war with Gaza, and an open air prison with atrocious conditions, more resembling a concentration camp than a counter under blockade as previously known.

AzzieElbab 5y ago
can you please answer the questions I asked? Your assumptions are indefensibly wrong
- sofixa 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_and_political_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_... Arab Israeli citizens are second class citizens in many regards, and Palestinians are even below that. And I'm sorry, are you insisting that there's no difference between an explicitly religious country like Israel or Iran, and a country that happens to have a majority of the population from a single religion?