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What are you talking about? How is it ‘walled’?

by zepto 5y ago

superkuh 5y ago
I've never been able to connect to tilde.chat. I'm connected to literally 20 other IRC networks with no issue. Can you connect?
Karrot_Kream 5y ago
Lots of content made by Tildes folks end up in places like Gemini or Gopher which aren't easily accessible. It's walled, but not paywalled nor web signup walled.
- zepto 5y ago
  I don’t see how this makes any sense at all as a definition of ‘walled’. There are freely available and free of charge Gemini and Gopher clients for every platform, almost all of which are open source. No signups to any service are required. For that matter, there are Gemini gateways on the web, so you don’t even need to install anything. If your definition of a ‘walled garden’ is anything that can’t be accessed directly by the web browser Google or Apple pre-installed on your device, I think you might want to reconsider.
  - Karrot_Kream 5y ago
    > If your definition of a ‘walled garden’ is anything that can’t be accessed directly by the web browser Google or Apple pre-installed on your device, I think you might want to reconsider. No that's not my definition but also, why would I reconsider? Are you angry at Google or Apple and trying to defend the Tildes or something? I'm using "walled" in the sense that there's a level of gatekeeping the community does, so builds up walls, to attract a certain kind of person. This kind of person _wants_ to hang out on a shared TUI-based *nix system. That's the wall. Much like a signup wall requires people have logins. That's all.
    - ziggus 5y ago
      Then say 'gatekeeping', and not 'walled'. The two mean different things.
      - Karrot_Kream 5y ago
        I largely view them as the same. What is 'walled' in your eyes?
        zepto 5y ago
        My suggestion to reconsider is based on your definition being meaningless. I suspect you hadn’t thought through the implications. Your choice, of course. Regardless of your definition of “walled”, you seem to simply not know about tildes. There is no need to use a TUI or hang out on a Unix system to view the content.
passthejoe 5y ago
Most of the Tilde sites allow users to post standard web pages (i.e. using http/https).

What are you talking about? How is it ‘walled’?

by zepto 5y ago

What are you talking about? How is it ‘walled’?

I've never been able to connect to tilde.chat. I'm connected to literally 20 other IRC networks with no issue. Can you connect?

Karrot_Kream 5y ago

Lots of content made by Tildes folks end up in places like Gemini or Gopher which aren't easily accessible. It's walled, but not paywalled nor web signup walled.

zepto 5y ago
I don’t see how this makes any sense at all as a definition of ‘walled’. There are freely available and free of charge Gemini and Gopher clients for every platform, almost all of which are open source. No signups to any service are required. For that matter, there are Gemini gateways on the web, so you don’t even need to install anything. If your definition of a ‘walled garden’ is anything that can’t be accessed directly by the web browser Google or Apple pre-installed on your device, I think you might want to reconsider.
- Karrot_Kream 5y ago
  > If your definition of a ‘walled garden’ is anything that can’t be accessed directly by the web browser Google or Apple pre-installed on your device, I think you might want to reconsider. No that's not my definition but also, why would I reconsider? Are you angry at Google or Apple and trying to defend the Tildes or something? I'm using "walled" in the sense that there's a level of gatekeeping the community does, so builds up walls, to attract a certain kind of person. This kind of person _wants_ to hang out on a shared TUI-based *nix system. That's the wall. Much like a signup wall requires people have logins. That's all.
  - ziggus 5y ago
    Then say 'gatekeeping', and not 'walled'. The two mean different things.
    - Karrot_Kream 5y ago
      I largely view them as the same. What is 'walled' in your eyes?
      - zepto 5y ago
        My suggestion to reconsider is based on your definition being meaningless. I suspect you hadn’t thought through the implications. Your choice, of course. Regardless of your definition of “walled”, you seem to simply not know about tildes. There is no need to use a TUI or hang out on a Unix system to view the content.

passthejoe 5y ago

Most of the Tilde sites allow users to post standard web pages (i.e. using http/https).