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CEO of vimeo will cry themself to sleep after reading this post

by wheybags 5y ago

Topgamer7 5y ago
I remember a day where I preferred vimeo because of its support for higher resolutions...
simonbarker87 5y ago
They should make the platform quicker and more reliable then
danpalmer 5y ago
Vimeo seems to have found a good niche – professional video hosting. YouTube is a social network as much as a video hosting service, and for professional applications, embeds in websites, portfolios, etc, it's often a bad idea to include things that will detract from other content or take users away from the site. YouTube embeds are still fairly branded, may show ads, etc. YouTube has no interest in this market, so I think Vimeo will be fine.
- IceWreck 5y ago
  > Vimeo seems to have found a good niche – professional video hosting. Yet I prefer websites use youtube to embed content. Whenever I encounter an embedded vimeo video, I'm asked to fill a captcha. This almost never happens with youtube.
LegitShady 5y ago
I believe vimeo purposely isn't interested in much of the you from youtube, although these days youtube isn't either. Vimeo is looking to be a hoster for commercial content mainly.
wruza 5y ago
I tried to use vimeo, but even if it had content on it that interests me, I find it very frustrating to use for some intuitive reason. Maybe it’s constant flashing of wait-spinners, maybe no place to discover things. It feels like yet another pic hosting but for videos. https://vimeo.com https://vimeo.com doesn’t look like a promising landing for 99% of users either. I also signed up for a curiosity stream trial (or was it its competitor? idk), watched one video, only to delete my account afterwards. Their video player doesn’t support left-right keys and when I missed a sentence I had no chance to rewind just a little, because in an hour+ long video you can’t just point to a second with your mouse. It’s so stupid technically that I can’t imagine who could do that for a platform which is advertised from every crack. I don’t think that youtube no-competition is just a network effect and ads and money. Even if we were to find youtube deleted tomorrow, both viewers and content creators would have a fucking hard time to continue their usual activities. I often blame youtube for its ui/ux, but—and this is my personal opinion—its competition is just trash.
- gregn 5y ago
  this. Vimeo is great, but we've seen hardly any continued development in the last 10 years. It looks exactly the same now as it did 10+ years ago. In order to pursue the market you need to keep coding, adding things, trying things. Discovery, yes! W/o discovery you're sunk. But there are 20 other things you could do to defrictionize the platform. And 20 more you could do to improve its reach. Scale will come with the audience graph justifies the expenditure. I would argue that YouTube's recent machine-learning suggestions actually totally ffing suck. The way they were 8 years ago was incredibly better. This is one area you could challenge them in. Be a YouTube of 2014 and you could beat them in suggestion.

CEO of vimeo will cry themself to sleep after reading this post

Topgamer7 5y ago

I remember a day where I preferred vimeo because of its support for higher resolutions...

simonbarker87 5y ago

They should make the platform quicker and more reliable then

danpalmer 5y ago

Vimeo seems to have found a good niche – professional video hosting. YouTube is a social network as much as a video hosting service, and for professional applications, embeds in websites, portfolios, etc, it's often a bad idea to include things that will detract from other content or take users away from the site. YouTube embeds are still fairly branded, may show ads, etc. YouTube has no interest in this market, so I think Vimeo will be fine.

IceWreck 5y ago
> Vimeo seems to have found a good niche – professional video hosting. Yet I prefer websites use youtube to embed content. Whenever I encounter an embedded vimeo video, I'm asked to fill a captcha. This almost never happens with youtube.

LegitShady 5y ago

I believe vimeo purposely isn't interested in much of the you from youtube, although these days youtube isn't either. Vimeo is looking to be a hoster for commercial content mainly.

wruza 5y ago

I tried to use vimeo, but even if it had content on it that interests me, I find it very frustrating to use for some intuitive reason. Maybe it’s constant flashing of wait-spinners, maybe no place to discover things. It feels like yet another pic hosting but for videos. https://vimeo.com https://vimeo.com doesn’t look like a promising landing for 99% of users either. I also signed up for a curiosity stream trial (or was it its competitor? idk), watched one video, only to delete my account afterwards. Their video player doesn’t support left-right keys and when I missed a sentence I had no chance to rewind just a little, because in an hour+ long video you can’t just point to a second with your mouse. It’s so stupid technically that I can’t imagine who could do that for a platform which is advertised from every crack. I don’t think that youtube no-competition is just a network effect and ads and money. Even if we were to find youtube deleted tomorrow, both viewers and content creators would have a fucking hard time to continue their usual activities. I often blame youtube for its ui/ux, but—and this is my personal opinion—its competition is just trash.

gregn 5y ago
this. Vimeo is great, but we've seen hardly any continued development in the last 10 years. It looks exactly the same now as it did 10+ years ago. In order to pursue the market you need to keep coding, adding things, trying things. Discovery, yes! W/o discovery you're sunk. But there are 20 other things you could do to defrictionize the platform. And 20 more you could do to improve its reach. Scale will come with the audience graph justifies the expenditure. I would argue that YouTube's recent machine-learning suggestions actually totally ffing suck. The way they were 8 years ago was incredibly better. This is one area you could challenge them in. Be a YouTube of 2014 and you could beat them in suggestion.