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> The Israeli boycott isn't simply saying you don't agree with their government, it's actively boycotting companies run by Israeli Jews and not hiring Israeli J
by istjohn 5y ago
> The Israeli boycott isn't simply saying you don't agree with their government, it's actively boycotting companies run by Israeli Jews and not hiring Israeli Jews.
That's simply not true. The Texas law does not say anything about boycotts against Jews. And BDS is modeled after the successful Apartheid boycotts, which were boycotts of South Africa, not boycotts of companies run by White South Africans.
- Mikeb85 5y agoRead the BDS website. In the FAQ section they say "nearly all" Israeli companies are complicit with crimes against Palestinians. They essentially cast such a wide net that the actual result is discrimination against all Israeli Jewish-run companies.
- AzzieElbab 5y ago“ And BDS is modeled after the successful Apartheid boycotts” except that there is no Apartheid is the state of Israel. There is an ongoing conflict and occupation in the Palestinian territories but there is no Apartheid in Israel itself where about a quarter of population is Arab. BDS intentionally squashes two problems into one to draw analogies
- ComputerGuru 5y agoArab-Israelis are second class citizens of Israel. Israel, with or without the West Bank, is absolutely an apartheid state. https://www.waronwant.org/news-analysis/israeli-apartheid-factsheet https://www.waronwant.org/news-analysis/israeli-apartheid-fa...
- AzzieElbab 5y agoIs this article supposed to prove my point or yours? I read it and saw no examples of supposed apartheid in the state of Israel. The article intentionally mashes Israel and occupied territories together.
- sofixa 5y agoDoes an Israeli Arab, or worse, a Palestinian Arab, have the same rights as an Israeli Jew? Does the Israeli constitution say it's a country for Jews? Are the people in Gaza living in what amounts to an open air prison? Are Palestinian getting expelled from their land for resettlement by Jews? No, yes, yes and yes. It's hard to argue that's seriously different than apartheid ( except that black South Africans weren't generally confined to an open air prison, and expelled from their land for resettlement by whites).
- AzzieElbab 5y ago1 - Can you give a specific example of a right that Arab Israeli citizens are missing but in your opinion are entitled to? 2 - Israel is a Jewish state just like Italy is a Christian state, and Iraq is a Muslim state. So what, given all citizens have equal rights? wrt apartheid claims, Israel is at war with both Gaza and West Bank. West Bank is partially occupied because there is no will on either side to come up with a permanent peace agreement. Gaza is in perpetual armed conflict with Israel as per Hamas(ruling party of Gaza) founding chapter, there is no peace between the two, only temporarily cease fires. Is blockade a valuable war tactic?
- sofixa 5y agoI'm sorry, but Italy is not a Christian state. The majority of the population is Christian, but it's not like Israel or Iran where the religion is enshrined in the basic law of the country, and the government and state's legitimacy are based in that religion. Specifically, in countries like this, non-believers don't have the same rights as believers, either explicitly or implicitly (like marriage rights for mixed couples in Israel, or that Arabs get expelled for their lands to be resettled). If I'm not mistaken, the only country considered developed which has such a close and explicit relationship between the state and a religion is Israel. All the rest are developing Muslim countries. > wrt apartheid claims, Israel is at war with both Gaza and West Bank. Not really, for Israel to be at war with them they'd have to recognise their independence, which they don't :) And there can't be a permanent peace agreement while Israel claims things Palestinians can't give them ( like the entirety of Jerusalem). A blockade is a valuable war tactic, dubious morally ( civilians suffer indiscriminately), but as mentioned before Israel is not at war with Gaza, and an open air prison with atrocious conditions, more resembling a concentration camp than a counter under blockade as previously known.