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So, is he or his company allowed to protest against China, as allowed by the 1st amendment? Hmm, no law banning that...

Mikeb85 5y ago
Depends what that entails... Refusing to do business with Chinese-American companies or hire people of Chinese descent likely wouldn't be allowed. Look at the BDS website. They basically equate all Israeli companies with the government. In addition, Israel guarantees the right of return (ie. citizenship) to all Jews. So while BDS claims they're not anti-Semetic, they apply their definitions broadly enough that it's not hard to see what the end result is...
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  Whatever it entails, there is no explicit law saying "If you want to partner with an entity of the State of Texas, you or your company are not allowed to protest against China or Chinese companies". I guess Xi Jinping should buy off Republican lawmakers to get such a law instituted.
  - Mikeb85 5y ago
    Please, when Covid broke out there was a ton of media and societal pressure as well as legal actions to NOT discriminate against Asian-Americans and their businesses, despite the CCP being quite hostile towards the west.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      Discriminating against Asian-Americans is explicitly covered by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Countries are not protected by that act.
      - Mikeb85 5y ago
        So how do you protest a country without applying their actions to their people? Because ordinarily Americans would never have direct interaction with the state of Israel.
        ceejayoz 5y ago
        That logic would forbid, say, US sanctions on Iran, Russia, etc.
        Mikeb85 5y ago
        Read up on the actual sanctions to those countries. Here's Russia: https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/russia-sanctions https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/russia-sanct... You can do a lot more business with Russia than what BDS suggests you should do with Israel...
        ceejayoz 5y ago
        https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/faqs/topic/1556 https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/... > Can U.S. persons do business with entities in North Korea? > No. Unless authorized pursuant to a general or specific license from OFAC and/or BIS, Executive Order (E.O.) 13722 prohibits new investment in North Korea by a U.S. person and the exportation or reexportation, from the United States, or by a U.S. person, of any goods, services, or technology to North Korea. E.O. 13810 (“Imposing Additional Sanctions with Respect to North Korea”) does not modify any of those prohibitions. It's quite clear a) that national origin is a protected class and b) that a) does not mean it's illegal to target a nation-state.
        Mikeb85 5y ago
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    - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
      You really are conflating a lot of different things so you can argue that you're right... I'd try to explain everything you're mixing and matching to build your house of argument cards, and why they don't belong together, but I think you'd just gather more cards.

Depends what that entails... Refusing to do business with Chinese-American companies or hire people of Chinese descent likely wouldn't be allowed. Look at the BDS website. They basically equate all Israeli companies with the government. In addition, Israel guarantees the right of return (ie. citizenship) to all Jews. So while BDS claims they're not anti-Semetic, they apply their definitions broadly enough that it's not hard to see what the end result is...

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Whatever it entails, there is no explicit law saying "If you want to partner with an entity of the State of Texas, you or your company are not allowed to protest against China or Chinese companies". I guess Xi Jinping should buy off Republican lawmakers to get such a law instituted.
- Mikeb85 5y ago
  Please, when Covid broke out there was a ton of media and societal pressure as well as legal actions to NOT discriminate against Asian-Americans and their businesses, despite the CCP being quite hostile towards the west.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    Discriminating against Asian-Americans is explicitly covered by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Countries are not protected by that act.
    - Mikeb85 5y ago
      So how do you protest a country without applying their actions to their people? Because ordinarily Americans would never have direct interaction with the state of Israel.
      - ceejayoz 5y ago
        That logic would forbid, say, US sanctions on Iran, Russia, etc.
        Mikeb85 5y ago
        Read up on the actual sanctions to those countries. Here's Russia: https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/russia-sanctions https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/russia-sanct... You can do a lot more business with Russia than what BDS suggests you should do with Israel...
        ceejayoz 5y ago
        https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/faqs/topic/1556 https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/... > Can U.S. persons do business with entities in North Korea? > No. Unless authorized pursuant to a general or specific license from OFAC and/or BIS, Executive Order (E.O.) 13722 prohibits new investment in North Korea by a U.S. person and the exportation or reexportation, from the United States, or by a U.S. person, of any goods, services, or technology to North Korea. E.O. 13810 (“Imposing Additional Sanctions with Respect to North Korea”) does not modify any of those prohibitions. It's quite clear a) that national origin is a protected class and b) that a) does not mean it's illegal to target a nation-state.
        Mikeb85 5y ago
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  - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
    You really are conflating a lot of different things so you can argue that you're right... I'd try to explain everything you're mixing and matching to build your house of argument cards, and why they don't belong together, but I think you'd just gather more cards.