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Still can't understand why I can't buy a 5k/6k at 27", 30" or 32" display in the non-Mac world. 4K is a rather low DPI, and using it at 150% OS scaling is not

by nickpp 5y ago

Still can't understand why I can't buy a 5k/6k at 27", 30" or 32" display in the non-Mac world. 4K is a rather low DPI, and using it at 150% OS scaling is not that great. Apple offers such great displays for the MacBook and iMac, with non-fractional scaling and such a good density that sub-pixel anti-aliasing is no longer needed for text rendering. Why do I have ZERO options for that outside Apple's offers?!

skohan 5y ago
How close is your screen that 4k/27" seems like low DPI? What are you comparing it to? But I did monitor shopping recently, and what I wish I could get outside the mac world (or even in it) is the form-factor. Like there are a lot of very nice 4k HDR IPS displays out there today, but nothing I could find in the thin form-factor of an iMac or laptop display.
- nickpp 5y ago
  Regular distance on my desk, 75-100 cm I guess. I have a 32" since I want larger text at my age. But it doesn't compare to the Retina display on my MacBook: I can often see the pixels and scaling artefacts. What I would've liked was 5k at 32" for a perfect doubling of my preferred resolution: 2560x1440.
pelorat 5y ago
Because you get what, 60Hz at best on those Apple display. 60Hz is not enough any more.
- nickpp 5y ago
  I like high frame rates, but if I have to choose, I will go for high pixel density every time. But I'm not a gamer. Here's to hoping that someday we'll get to enjoy both!
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  60 Hz is definitely enough. The vast majority of video content stops at 60 Hz. Applications and games may benefit from 120 or 144 Hz refresh rates, but for the latter, it also means that you're pushing a lot more pixels through your graphics card - which may well not keep up. IMO, 4K60 is a reasonable choice for those that prioritise resolution over refresh rate.
bzzzt 5y ago
Dell has the UltraSharp UP3218K 8k screen for about 4 grand.
tonyedgecombe 5y ago
You can't even buy the Dell 4K 24" anymore. My guess is buyers don't know what they are getting so just go for size.

by nickpp 5y ago

skohan 5y ago

How close is your screen that 4k/27" seems like low DPI? What are you comparing it to? But I did monitor shopping recently, and what I wish I could get outside the mac world (or even in it) is the form-factor. Like there are a lot of very nice 4k HDR IPS displays out there today, but nothing I could find in the thin form-factor of an iMac or laptop display.

nickpp 5y ago
Regular distance on my desk, 75-100 cm I guess. I have a 32" since I want larger text at my age. But it doesn't compare to the Retina display on my MacBook: I can often see the pixels and scaling artefacts. What I would've liked was 5k at 32" for a perfect doubling of my preferred resolution: 2560x1440.

pelorat 5y ago

Because you get what, 60Hz at best on those Apple display. 60Hz is not enough any more.

nickpp 5y ago
I like high frame rates, but if I have to choose, I will go for high pixel density every time. But I'm not a gamer. Here's to hoping that someday we'll get to enjoy both!
selfhoster11 5y ago
60 Hz is definitely enough. The vast majority of video content stops at 60 Hz. Applications and games may benefit from 120 or 144 Hz refresh rates, but for the latter, it also means that you're pushing a lot more pixels through your graphics card - which may well not keep up. IMO, 4K60 is a reasonable choice for those that prioritise resolution over refresh rate.

bzzzt 5y ago

Dell has the UltraSharp UP3218K 8k screen for about 4 grand.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago

You can't even buy the Dell 4K 24" anymore. My guess is buyers don't know what they are getting so just go for size.