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Unrelated but newer Macbook Pros (with M1 Max chips) as well as the Apple Pro Display XDR have entirely gotten rid of ICC profiles which seems crazy to me. Appl

Unrelated but newer Macbook Pros (with M1 Max chips) as well as the Apple Pro Display XDR have entirely gotten rid of ICC profiles which seems crazy to me. Apple's definition of a professional is a more like a hipster. Real pros want no bullshit abstractions and hidden stuff, they want all knobs and switches exposed in all its glory. Btw, if you want to see how bad Apple Pro Display XDR is, look no further than the legendary HDTV Test channel on YT. Totally crushes Apple with straight up numbers and pure unadulterated objectivity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd7UzLJHrU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd7UzLJHrU

iSnow 5y ago
Wait, do I get this right that M1 Macs cannot work with monitor calibration tools? I am not a graphics professional but my wife is and we are thinking about buying a M1 Mac - but she needs a calibrated display.
- lstamour 5y ago
  ICC profiles still exist but maybe they don’t show by default? You might need to option-click to view settings if they go missing compared to previous macOS versions, I’ve been noticing a bit of a streamlining or reorg of settings in recent macOS releases. It’s still documented the normal way though https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mchlf3ddc60d/mac https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mchlf3ddc60d/... - and I can confirm it works still: I needed a specific HDMI output to be rec.709 as it was the only way to get a DVD-quality stream to play correctly on an older HDTV. And it worked great. I also haven’t heard any reports that X-Rite calibration software has stopped working or similar. As far as I know, works great. :)
sunaurus 5y ago
> Totally crushes Apple with straight up numbers and pure unadulterated objectivity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd7UzLJHrU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd7UzLJHrU I don't know a lot about either of these monitors, but I don't find it surprising at all that a 30,000€ monitor would be better than a 6000€ monitor. Saying that the reviewer objectively crushes apple by using these two monitors in a comparison seems quite misleading.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  The author is just doing what the keynote said with the exact model of the Sony monitor.
klodolph 5y ago
I mean, that video is comparing it against a Sony HX310, which costs $30,000. If you have a budget of $30,000 to spend on a single monitor, by all means, go for it.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  Dude, did you watch the Apple Keynote when they released the Pro Display XDR? They literally claimed to be better than that $30k monitor. It is totally fair to compare it and prove that Apple was wrong.
  - klodolph 5y ago
    An Apple Keynote is marketing fluff. Nobody should be taking that at face value in the first place.

iSnow 5y ago

Wait, do I get this right that M1 Macs cannot work with monitor calibration tools? I am not a graphics professional but my wife is and we are thinking about buying a M1 Mac - but she needs a calibrated display.

lstamour 5y ago
ICC profiles still exist but maybe they don’t show by default? You might need to option-click to view settings if they go missing compared to previous macOS versions, I’ve been noticing a bit of a streamlining or reorg of settings in recent macOS releases. It’s still documented the normal way though https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mchlf3ddc60d/mac https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mchlf3ddc60d/... - and I can confirm it works still: I needed a specific HDMI output to be rec.709 as it was the only way to get a DVD-quality stream to play correctly on an older HDTV. And it worked great. I also haven’t heard any reports that X-Rite calibration software has stopped working or similar. As far as I know, works great. :)

sunaurus 5y ago

> Totally crushes Apple with straight up numbers and pure unadulterated objectivity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd7UzLJHrU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd7UzLJHrU I don't know a lot about either of these monitors, but I don't find it surprising at all that a 30,000€ monitor would be better than a 6000€ monitor. Saying that the reviewer objectively crushes apple by using these two monitors in a comparison seems quite misleading.

systemvoltage 5y ago
The author is just doing what the keynote said with the exact model of the Sony monitor.

klodolph 5y ago

I mean, that video is comparing it against a Sony HX310, which costs $30,000. If you have a budget of $30,000 to spend on a single monitor, by all means, go for it.

systemvoltage 5y ago
Dude, did you watch the Apple Keynote when they released the Pro Display XDR? They literally claimed to be better than that $30k monitor. It is totally fair to compare it and prove that Apple was wrong.
- klodolph 5y ago
  An Apple Keynote is marketing fluff. Nobody should be taking that at face value in the first place.