Mine is not an "automation = bad" position. Obviously, it has value. It's more to say that automation is frequently implemented in a way that treats devs as jus

Mine is not an "automation = bad" position. Obviously, it has value. It's more to say that automation is frequently implemented in a way that treats devs as just another part of an automated pipeline, not much different than software. >"productivity" gain is pretty far down the list of benefits to me personally Yeah, in reply to the other comment, I was saying that automation from an organizational perspective is not so much about improving the quality of life for devs, as it is about increasing their productivity.