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It's been hilarious watching competing companies publish warring blog posts declaring each other full of shit. I mean, I knew, but thanks for airing each others

It's been hilarious watching competing companies publish warring blog posts declaring each other full of shit. I mean, I knew, but thanks for airing each others' dirty underpants.

gary_0 5y ago
It reminds me of being on Slashdot 15 years ago. We've even got one of the engineers posting in the comment thread, starting their own little flamewar. The names of the characters have changed, but there's still a bit of the same old Internet here.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  The fact that a lead engineer and CEO took the time to respond here is clarity not a flamewar. edit maybe I'm wrong, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29469174 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29469174
  - gary_0 5y ago
    I did say little flamewar. :)
    - kentonv 5y ago
      I definitely started some sort of a flamewar but somehow not the one I was trying to start.
dmw_ng 5y ago
Most insightful comment here IMHO. Vaguely reminiscent of the Glasgow Ice Cream Wars, I'd rather not buy from anyone involved
- deleted 5y ago
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unityByFreedom 5y ago
It's just Fastly's laundry. Fastly does not publish their pricing [1]. And, you need to contact a rep to sign up for commercial use [2], which implies everyone gets a different deal. Yet they claim contacting Cloudflare to do benchmarking means it's impossible for them to do a comparison, > [FASTLY BLOG] it's impossible for us to define our own terms for a comparison because Cloudflare’s terms of use prohibit benchmarking of their services >> [CLOUDFLARE TERMS] (f) perform or publish any benchmark tests or analyses relating to the Services without Cloudflare’s written consent; That is not so different from Fastly's own sign-up process. [1] https://www.fastly.com/pricing/ https://www.fastly.com/pricing/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29468455 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29468455
- nerdbaggy 5y ago
  Most of cloudflare features are locked behind sales, powerpoints, and a couple meetings.
  - unityByFreedom 5y ago
    The question is "who shares more details on pricing", not "who has more unpriced features". https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/ https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/
  - vlovich123 5y ago
    Out of curiosity, which features are you referring to? My impression (joined < 1 year ago) is that the vast majority of products are available to free customers (albeit with smaller limits perhaps) while the gap between self-service paid accounts and enterprise is smaller still.
    - nerdbaggy 5y ago
      My experience was with the UDP tunneling service and some general CDN stuff. Once you get past the published pricing then it’s sales calls and stuff like that.

It's been hilarious watching competing companies publish warring blog posts declaring each other full of shit. I mean, I knew, but thanks for airing each others' dirty underpants.

gary_0 5y ago

It reminds me of being on Slashdot 15 years ago. We've even got one of the engineers posting in the comment thread, starting their own little flamewar. The names of the characters have changed, but there's still a bit of the same old Internet here.

unityByFreedom 5y ago
The fact that a lead engineer and CEO took the time to respond here is clarity not a flamewar. edit maybe I'm wrong, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29469174 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29469174
- gary_0 5y ago
  I did say little flamewar. :)
  - kentonv 5y ago
    I definitely started some sort of a flamewar but somehow not the one I was trying to start.

dmw_ng 5y ago

Most insightful comment here IMHO. Vaguely reminiscent of the Glasgow Ice Cream Wars, I'd rather not buy from anyone involved

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unityByFreedom 5y ago

It's just Fastly's laundry. Fastly does not publish their pricing [1]. And, you need to contact a rep to sign up for commercial use [2], which implies everyone gets a different deal. Yet they claim contacting Cloudflare to do benchmarking means it's impossible for them to do a comparison, > [FASTLY BLOG] it's impossible for us to define our own terms for a comparison because Cloudflare’s terms of use prohibit benchmarking of their services >> [CLOUDFLARE TERMS] (f) perform or publish any benchmark tests or analyses relating to the Services without Cloudflare’s written consent; That is not so different from Fastly's own sign-up process. [1] https://www.fastly.com/pricing/ https://www.fastly.com/pricing/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29468455 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29468455

nerdbaggy 5y ago
Most of cloudflare features are locked behind sales, powerpoints, and a couple meetings.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  The question is "who shares more details on pricing", not "who has more unpriced features". https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/ https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/
- vlovich123 5y ago
  Out of curiosity, which features are you referring to? My impression (joined < 1 year ago) is that the vast majority of products are available to free customers (albeit with smaller limits perhaps) while the gap between self-service paid accounts and enterprise is smaller still.
  - nerdbaggy 5y ago
    My experience was with the UDP tunneling service and some general CDN stuff. Once you get past the published pricing then it’s sales calls and stuff like that.