> done properly "You're doing it wrong" is not a compelling argument. A competent, motivated, invested, and empowered team don't need any particular methodolo

> done properly "You're doing it wrong" is not a compelling argument. A competent, motivated, invested, and empowered team don't need any particular methodology to succeed. Methodologies are adopted precisely because many people don't do things properly much of the time. A methodology which doesn't account for this and doesn't self-correct when done improperly isn't worth a whole lot. Waterfall done properly produces great results. Agile done properly produces great results. Both of them produce bad results when done poorly. Proponents of one tend to compare their methodology done properly to alternative methodologies done poorly. That's a pointless conversation to have.